Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
So I'll take that as a yes, then.

Though, are these the same Western ideals that you rail against all the time as 70 years of socialism?
And I will take that as a 'no' in answer to my question.

No. I mean the good ones that socialism has tried and failed to destroy - rule of law, freedom of speech, guaranteed property rights, equality before the law, that sort of thing.