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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by IUFG View Post
    But, but, Chelsea are a young team. It was mentioned a few times last night...

    Along with McCoist borderline cheering on Chelsea.
    How **** was Mudryk? Utterly anonymous.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by PSRB View Post
    How **** was Mudryk? Utterly anonymous.
    Whilst he might come good, it currently looks like we dodged a bullet, there.
    “Other clubs never came into my thoughts once I knew Arsenal wanted to sign me.”

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by IUFG View Post
    Whilst he might come good, it currently looks like we dodged a bullet, there.
    No matter how good he becomes, the signing of Trossard will remain the better option. He has been massive for us for 18 months and we needed immediate contributions, not future promise. An absolute steal.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by PSRB View Post
    How **** was Mudryk? Utterly anonymous.
    To be fair, you have to apply some context here. With Arteta you have coaching and structure that can get great performances from good players. With Chelsea it is precisely the opposite- a total mess that turns really good players into mush. They could **** up Maradona.

    I think there is a good player in Mudryk. I know there is in Caicedo because I saw it at Brighton. But he has been appalling at Chelsea for the most part. Their defending last night was atrocious- you wouldn't get away with that playing for the Bricklayers Arms.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    To be fair, you have to apply some context here. With Arteta you have coaching and structure that can get great performances from good players. With Chelsea it is precisely the opposite- a total mess that turns really good players into mush. They could **** up Maradona.

    I think there is a good player in Mudryk. I know there is in Caicedo because I saw it at Brighton. But he has been appalling at Chelsea for the most part. Their defending last night was atrocious- you wouldn't get away with that playing for the Bricklayers Arms.
    To a point maybe but Cole Palmer doesn't seem to be hindered by that.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by PSRB View Post
    To a point maybe but Cole Palmer doesn't seem to be hindered by that.
    No, nor Gallagher. Some players can still thrive in chaos but others will struggle.

    Look at what they did to Havertz. He was a shell of a footballer when he joined us and it took months to get him looking as though he wanted to be on the pitch again. And he only worked through it by playing regular minutes. Mudryk is in and out. Understandable as he is genuinely stand-out awful, but I still think there is ability there.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    To be fair, you have to apply some context here. With Arteta you have coaching and structure that can get great performances from good players. With Chelsea it is precisely the opposite- a total mess that turns really good players into mush. They could **** up Maradona.

    I think there is a good player in Mudryk. I know there is in Caicedo because I saw it at Brighton. But he has been appalling at Chelsea for the most part. Their defending last night was atrocious- you wouldn't get away with that playing for the Bricklayers Arms.
    Not sure Arteta would tolerate Maradona qua Maradona.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

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