I didn’t mean to have a go at Arteta last night.

[Sir C]

The sad fact is that tactics have become so intricate, so convoluted and so overwhelming, they’ve sucked all the joy out of the game. Honestly, I find it tedious these days.

Double pivot. Inverted full backs. Gegenpressing. **** it all out the window and get back to, you know… playing football as God intended. 442 or 433, pass and move, pace and power.

[IUFG]

442 or 433, pass and move, pace and power.

pfffft! Old hat, that ****, sc. And get with the project, you dinosaur...

[Sir C]

pfffft! Old hat, that ****, sc. And get with the project, you dinosaur...

I admit it i, I’m as old as the hills.

[Peter]

The sad fact is that tactics have become so intricate, so convoluted and so overwhelming, they’ve sucked all the joy out of the game. Honestly, I find it tedious these days.

Double pivot. Inverted full backs. Gegenpressing. **** it all out the window and get back to, you know… playing football as God intended. 442 or 433, pass and move, pace and power.

To be fair, the majority of the time we play some lovely football. WE just haven't mastered the art of balancing this in a more cautious and structured way. We end up as toothless, static drones, knocking balls across our lines for 90 minutes until someone falls over and we concede a goal.

So sorry to hear about the missus. Best wishes

[WES]

To be fair, the majority of the time we play some lovely football. WE just haven't mastered the art of balancing this in a more cautious and structured way. We end up as toothless, static drones, knocking balls across our lines for 90 minutes until someone falls over and we concede a goal.

So sorry to hear about the missus. Best wishes

Well, we're are just two points off the top of the most difficult league in Europe, Peter. So we aren't *that* bad.

If the point that Charles is making is that football is all a bit samey, then I agree with him. Everyone seems to play the same system, endless pressing, flood midfield, get the ball back as quickly as possible when you lose it, push forward again.

Teams used to be about players only, so every team was different. Now it's just who does the same thing the best.

If that's his point, I agree with him.

[IUFG]

Teams used to be about players only, so every team was different. Now it's just who does the same thing the best.

If that's his point, I agree with him.

There is a current theme across football of stopping the opposition playing football and maintaining possession and being tight at the back - it's like Catenaccio never went away.

[WES]

There is a current theme across football of stopping the opposition playing football and maintaining possession and being tight at the back - it's like Catenaccio never went away.

Think of it practically, how often do you see a player go off on a mazy run nowadays? Or turn a game with a sublime piece of skill?

I'm not so sure that happens as often.

Still, our PL/CL double is absolutely on

[IUFG]

Think of it practically, how often do you see a player go off on a mazy run nowadays? Or turn a game with a sublime piece of skill?

I'm not so sure that happens as often.

Still, our PL/CL double is absolutely on

See how Pep has killed all the excitingness out of Grealish.

[PSRB]

Think of it practically, how often do you see a player go off on a mazy run nowadays? Or turn a game with a sublime piece of skill?

I'm not so sure that happens as often.

Still, our PL/CL double is absolutely on

I was alluding to this the other day regarding Martinelli. He has the ability, I assume he's just told not to.

[redgunamo]

There is a current theme across football of stopping the opposition playing football and maintaining possession and being tight at the back - it's like Catenaccio never went away.

These things come and go like fashion though. Not too long ago, the complaint was that nobody knew, or even cared about how to defend anymore.