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Thread: So here it comes - the Labour manifesto and an inevitable surge in the polls

  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige View Post
    Free school dinners too for Primary school kids. Free dental check-ups as well. They don’t even offer the latter here. You’ll be more socialist than Sweden!
    Fúck that Goats, we may have a lot of problems but we'll never be as backward, retarded, socialist, pathetic, liberal, gutless and shít as Sweden!
    'Seems that I was busy doing something close to nothing
    But different than the day before'

    'Met a dwarf that was no good, dressed like Little Red Riding Hood'

    'Now you're unemployed, all non-void
    Walkin' round like you're Pretty Boy Floyd'

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman View Post
    Of course, most of them are stupid enough to think they will somehow be immediately enriched within a couple of months of the actual leave date. They neither understand nor give a hoot about nationhood, sovereignty or democracy. They have simply been hoodwinked into blaming the EU for their misery.
    In fact, according to the Ashcroft Poll, the main reason for voting leave was so that "Laws affecting the UK should be made in the UK". That suggests a fairly firm grasp on sovereignty to me.

    Also people have indicated that they would be prepared to take a financial hit in the short term as a price to pay for independence.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    In fact, according to the Ashcroft Poll, the main reason for voting leave was so that "Laws affecting the UK should be made in the UK". That suggests a fairly firm grasp on sovereignty to me.

    Also people have indicated that they would be prepared to take a financial hit in the short term as a price to pay for independence.
    Ah the Ashcroft poll, my personal fave is "C'mon People (We're Making It Now)" with a nod to "Surprised by the Joy"

    What say you Ash
    'Seems that I was busy doing something close to nothing
    But different than the day before'

    'Met a dwarf that was no good, dressed like Little Red Riding Hood'

    'Now you're unemployed, all non-void
    Walkin' round like you're Pretty Boy Floyd'

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    In fact, according to the Ashcroft Poll, the main reason for voting leave was so that "Laws affecting the UK should be made in the UK". That suggests a fairly firm grasp on sovereignty to me.

    Also people have indicated that they would be prepared to take a financial hit in the short term as a price to pay for independence.
    Does that grasp extend to recognising that the ECJ only has certain jurisdictions (as an example they have virtually no impact on laws related to crime) and therefore only some of our laws are impacted by the EU? Do they also recognise that if you looked at the EU laws which do impact us you would probably find that the overwhelming majority are laws that we would have passed anyway?

    Or do they reduce a relatively complex debate down to a simple soundbite like 'we want control of our laws' that morons like Farage continually peddle?

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    In fact, according to the Ashcroft Poll, the main reason for voting leave was so that "Laws affecting the UK should be made in the UK".
    Is that what they said...really? Stupid little çunts they are.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    Does that grasp extend to recognising that the ECJ only has certain jurisdictions (as an example they have virtually no impact on laws related to crime) and therefore only some of our laws are impacted by the EU? Do they also recognise that if you looked at the EU laws which do impact us you would probably find that the overwhelming majority are laws that we would have passed anyway?

    Or do they reduce a relatively complex debate down to a simple soundbite like 'we want control of our laws' that morons like Farage continually peddle?
    All of politics is eventually reduced to a soundbite, WES. As we speak, we can feel the hand of history on our shoulders.

    Arguably only a moron would have dreamed up the GDPR and rammed it down the throats of not only every business in the EU, but every business on the world that wants to trade with the EU. They call it 'harmonisation'. I call it 'Empire'.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman View Post
    Is that what they said...really? Stupid little çunts they are.
    No, what they actually said was "That Mendacious Herbaceous fellow really is bit of a snobby spastic at the end of the day, isn't he?".

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by barrybueno View Post
    Ah the Ashcroft poll, my personal fave is "C'mon People (We're Making It Now)" with a nod to "Surprised by the Joy"

    What say you Ash
    I supported Verve in Oxford when they were just an NME band. Arrogant swine they were even then. Wouldn't let us share the dressing room, and we had to drink our rider in the corridor.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    All of politics is eventually reduced to a soundbite, WES. As we speak, we can feel the hand of history on our shoulders.

    Arguably only a moron would have dreamed up the GDPR and rammed it down the throats of not only every business in the EU, but every business on the world that wants to trade with the EU. They call it 'harmonisation'. I call it 'Empire'.
    Nicely sidestepped, Ash

    But the point remains - and there may be no way around it - that the public took a decision which was significantly impacted by superficial soundbites that are filled with inaccuracies and misrepresentations.

    I find this offensive.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    I supported Verve in Oxford when they were just an NME band. Arrogant swine they were even then. Wouldn't let us share the dressing room, and we had to drink our rider in the corridor.
    Sounds like a bittersweet experience there A
    'Seems that I was busy doing something close to nothing
    But different than the day before'

    'Met a dwarf that was no good, dressed like Little Red Riding Hood'

    'Now you're unemployed, all non-void
    Walkin' round like you're Pretty Boy Floyd'

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