Any c*nt that tells me I "would have taken that before the game"

[redgunamo]

Same reason there always is; we struggle to make 80 points.

One could argue that finishing 2nd to Leicester constitutes a bit of a bad season When your main rivals fail, why have you not taken advantage etc etc. Of course there may be a number of actual reasons for this, who really knows?

[SWv2]

Same reason there always is; we struggle to make 80 points.

Not this year Red.

[redgunamo]

Yeah, 90 is the new 80. That's what you need to be thinking of getting before you can even start to believe you may have a chance of winning the title.

Money has ruined it all #WengerOut

Not this year Red.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

Now we all know you are being a **** because..
a) you are a ****
b) see a)

but what result would you have taken before the game???

Reminds me of 1980s Commodore 64 Basic

10 Print "You're a ****"
20 GoTo 10
Go

Why mess with the classics?

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

And yet that is what we won and where we finished nonetheless.

My point is that your narrative of inexorable, season-on-season decline under Wenger simply isn't borne out by the facts.

We should have won the league that season. Failing to win that league, that season should be viewed as failure.

[Burney]

We should have won the league that season. Failing to win that league, that season should be viewed as failure.

That applies equally (in fact more so) to Tottenham, Chelsea, United, Liverpool and City.

But the fact remains that, of the losers, we came top.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

We had no 'owner' until last year when Usmanov sold up last year, ffs! We have never been 'bankrolled' and have always had to operate using only what's on our balance sheet. Given which, the only way for us to access more funds would have been by running on debt.

All of which, of course, supports my point. Wenger never had the money to spend that his rivals did.

...and yet, over the last 7 or 8 seasons what have we produced from the youth or from great scouting?

[Burney]

...and yet, over the last 7 or 8 seasons what have we produced from the youth or from great scouting?

A fair point, but the youth team wasn't Wenger's domain. Equally, scouting is all very well, but as other clubs wised up to what AW had achieved, competition for the good young players across Europe hotted up and money (ie Chelsea) tended to talk.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

A fair point, but the youth team wasn't Wenger's domain. Equally, scouting is all very well, but as other clubs wised up to what AW had achieved, competition for the good young players across Europe hotted up and money (ie Chelsea) tended to talk.

Wenger was a master of implementing a good scouting network. A blue print for others to follow and they did with more money. He was not a master of spending big and not one for developing youth.

So what next?

He kept us ticking along but with a combination of transfer restrictions and his own limitations, what were we really capable of achieving?

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

That applies equally (in fact more so) to Tottenham, Chelsea, United, Liverpool and City.

But the fact remains that, of the losers, we came top.

Man City, Man U and Chelsea sacked their managers at the end of that season. Liverpool sacked their manager during that season and Spurs had just hired Potato head a little before.