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Thread: At what point does an honest shot like that from Torreira get deemed an own goal

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    At what point does an honest shot like that from Torreira get deemed an own goal

    Yes, it pinged off the other guy but the shot was on target and would have caused problems for the keeper. I just don't think you should be taking food out of the mouth of Torreira, that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastgermanautos View Post
    Yes, it pinged off the other guy but the shot was on target and would have caused problems for the keeper. I just don't think you should be taking food out of the mouth of Torreira, that's all.
    It was going wide - if it was on target it would have been given to him

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    Stupid rule. By that logic, if a shot is on target and is deflected wise, a goal should be awarded.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    It was going wide - if it was on target it would have been given to him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    Stupid rule. By that logic, if a shot is on target and is deflected wise, a goal should be awarded.
    It is a stupid rule. If the attacking player hadn't taken the shot, there wouldn't be anything to deflect, so it should be given to the attacker regardless.

    Own goals should only be awarded when the defending team scores against itself with little or no input from the opposition (the classic Lee Dixon-type own goal, if you like).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    It is a stupid rule. If the attacking player hadn't taken the shot, there wouldn't be anything to deflect, so it should be given to the attacker regardless.

    Own goals should only be awarded when the defending team scores against itself with little or no input from the opposition (the classic Lee Dixon-type own goal, if you like).
    So if a shot is going wide and an attacker deflects it then the original shooter should be given the goal?
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    Yes, although by awarding goals for off target shots you are also gonna end up encouraging really **** players to keep shooting, as they know their ****ness might be rewarded. You could end up with someone like Danny Wellbeck winning the golden boot. 🙁

    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    It is a stupid rule. If the attacking player hadn't taken the shot, there wouldn't be anything to deflect, so it should be given to the attacker regardless.

    Own goals should only be awarded when the defending team scores against itself with little or no input from the opposition (the classic Lee Dixon-type own goal, if you like).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    Stupid rule. By that logic, if a shot is on target and is deflected wise, a goal should be awarded.
    No, because the as any two-year-old would know the accreditation of a goal has absolutely no effect on the score. What you are suggesting is outside the laws of the game and would deeply change it. It matters no a jot that GG may have got a touch to Eddie Kelly's shot in 71 or Sunderland may have beaten Talbot to the ball in 79. It changes nothing that these goals may have been given to the wrong men. It does matter that the ball was 95 million miles over the line before being crossed in for the Newcastle equaliser in the 1932 Cup final or Stephane "Two Keepers" Henchoz smashed the ball off the line with his hand in 2001.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokster View Post
    So if a shot is going wide and an attacker deflects it then the original shooter should be given the goal?
    Unless the deflection is deliberate, yes. After all, intent is taken into account in other areas of the laws, why not in the question of goalscoring*?

    *Yes, yes, I know who scores isn't a question as far as the laws are concerned, since it doesn't actually matter.

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    Umm, I was only joking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    No, because the as any two-year-old would know the accreditation of a goal has absolutely no effect on the score. What you are suggesting is outside the laws of the game and would deeply change it. It matters no a jot that GG may have got a touch to Eddie Kelly's shot in 71 or Sunderland may have beaten Talbot to the ball in 79. It changes nothing that these goals may have been given to the wrong men. It does matter that the ball was 95 million miles over the line before being crossed in for the Newcastle equaliser in the 1932 Cup final or Stephane "Two Keepers" Henchoz smashed the ball off the line with his hand in 2001.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    Yes, although by awarding goals for off target shots you are also gonna end up encouraging really **** players to keep shooting, as they know their ****ness might be rewarded. You could end up with someone like Danny Wellbeck winning the golden boot. ��
    I think we should regard that as a reward for effort. After all, we want our special brethren to get something out of the game, too.

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