6th at the start of March

[Monty92]

Behind Man Utd and Chelsea despite them both having below-par seasons

9 points out of 27 in big games

Persistent early substitutions, proof that he doesn’t know his best line-up

Persistent in-game tactical tinkering, proof of indecisiveness and lack of confidence in his own methods

Failing to find a suitable role in the team for our marquee player



A week’s a long time in football, imo.

[Pokster]

Behind Man Utd and Chelsea despite them both having below-par seasons

9 points out of 27 in big games

Persistent early substitutions, proof that he doesn’t know his best line-up

Persistent in-game tactical tinkering, proof of indecisiveness and lack of confidence in his own methods

Failing to find a suitable role in the team for our marquee player



A week’s a long time in football, imo.

Well, we were 4th at the start fo March and only 5th now, point s in BIG games is no worse than previous seasons and might actually be better

Early subs shows he adapts to the situation, not waiting to make 70th minute subs no matter what he sees in fornt of him

Again, he adapts to the situation and is flexible in his thinking

Hi marquee player misses too many games due to "sickness" to build a team round him

A week is a long time, even more so if you can't even get your facts right

[Maravilloso Marvo]

12 points better off than after 29 games last season. That is a better YoY than Liverpool or indeed anybody else in the top 6.

[redgunamo]

Right. Essentially comparing new ****e with old ****e.

I'd be interested in a comparison between this season so far and Wenger's average over the past few seasons, just for some context. And because I'm guessing that last term was one of AW's poorer ones and the juxtaposition seems unfair.

Well, we were 4th at the start fo March and only 5th now, point s in BIG games is no worse than previous seasons and might actually be better

Early subs shows he adapts to the situation, not waiting to make 70th minute subs no matter what he sees in fornt of him

Again, he adapts to the situation and is flexible in his thinking

Hi marquee player misses too many games due to "sickness" to build a team round him

A week is a long time, even more so if you can't even get your facts right

[Monty92]

Right. Essentially comparing new ****e with old ****e.

I'd be interested in a comparison between this season so far and Wenger's average over the past few seasons, just for some context. And because I'm guessing that last term was one of AW's poorer ones and the juxtaposition seems unfair.

A very good point. It was just over two years ago that people were talking about us as potential title challengers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38113792

[Pokster]

A very good point. It was just over two years ago that people were talking about us as potential title challengers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38113792

Or, if it suits your reasoning, in the 18 months since that game we went from 2nd to 5th and then 6th the following season, so a large drop off in only 18 months for a manager who ran the tema exactly how he wanted

[Monty92]

Or, if it suits your reasoning, in the 18 months since that game we went from 2nd to 5th and then 6th the following season, so a large drop off in only 18 months for a manager who ran the tema exactly how he wanted

I don't dispute any of that. And ultimately Wenger did deserve to be sacked.

But redgunamo's point still stands. People talk about the last decade of Wenger's reign being one of decline, but it's worth noting there were various points during this period - often deep into the season - when people were entertaining the idea of us being title challengers. To me this suggests that people now have a slightly skewed perspective on how those years actually played out, in part because the last season was his worst.

[Luis Anaconda]

A very good point. It was just over two years ago that people were talking about us as potential title challengers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38113792

Or in fact just over 5 months ago

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...-a3955916.html

[Monty92]

Or in fact just over 5 months ago

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...-a3955916.html

Come now, his tongue is firmly in his cheek.

Unless of course you just read the headline

[WES]

Or in fact just over 5 months ago

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...-a3955916.html

Quite. Although what that really proves is that the phrase 'people were talking about us as' is utterly meaningless and would only be used by a WUM or an utter c*nt.