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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Right. We should remember the good days. Arnhem. Gallipoli. Hastings. Chatham.
    Yes, perhaps Arnhem, where the troops of the 10th SS Panzer division subsequently declared that the Rote Teufelen of 1 Para were the hardest troops they had encountered and the fighting more fierce than anything they had seen on the Eastern Front?

    Gallipoli was fought by foreigners, so doesn't count.

    At Hastings, Alfred's army had just fought a battle and then marched all the way from Stamford Bridge. Probably West Ham fans? Who can say. But anyway, we need not concern ourselves with such ancient history.

    Chatham was a sneaky surprise attack by cheating Dutchmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    Yes, perhaps Arnhem, where the troops of the 10th SS Panzer division subsequently declared that the Rote Teufelen of 1 Para were the hardest troops they had encountered and the fighting more fierce than anything they had seen on the Eastern Front?
    Anything they'd seen in the entire three months they'd spent in the east? Gosh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Anything they'd seen in the entire three months they'd spent in the east? Gosh.
    Yes. 3 months in the Ukraine. How long do you think you'd need?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    Yes. 3 months in the Ukraine. How long do you think you'd need?
    Pfft. I'm sure it was jolly tough going but I bet it was no Stalingrad imo. It probably wasn't even snowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    Yes, perhaps Arnhem, where the troops of the 10th SS Panzer division subsequently declared that the Rote Teufelen of 1 Para were the hardest troops they had encountered and the fighting more fierce than anything they had seen on the Eastern Front?

    Gallipoli was fought by foreigners, so doesn't count.


    At Hastings, Alfred's army had just fought a battle and then marched all the way from Stamford Bridge. Probably West Ham fans? Who can say. But anyway, we need not concern ourselves with such ancient history.

    Chatham was a sneaky surprise attack by cheating Dutchmen.
    No. There were more untrained Brits than Convicts.

    If we'd have had another brigade of Gukhas - "Send me more Indians", said the CinC - we'd have actually won Gallipolli and knocked the Turks out of the war.

    Once the Indians had taken the vital high ground at the start, had re-inforcements arrived, we'd have won.

    Instead, the untrained Brit brigade sent to re-inforce got lost cos they couldn't read a map and that was that.

    Gallipolli, almost won by highly trained Indians, lost by untrained, semi-literate, probably northern, Britishers and Convicts. Fact.

    Read Corrigan or Morton-Jack if you don't believe me.

    And if the Lib govt/UKMoD given in to Haig's request when in India in charge of the army there c.1909 to prepare to use the Indian army in full in Flanders, we'd have won quicker.

    But, like most politicians, they penny pinched, and wouldn't pay for Haig's secret Indian force.

    See what Haig says about the Indians.

    He was in charge of them in their own land for a couple of years and wanted to turn them into a secret army to smash the Hun as soon as it kicked off. But was banned by London.

    Scum.

    As usual, those who've been to India are right and those that haven't are wrong. Like supporting Sperz.

    Btw, I'm in that very small cross section venn diagram flefties who love Douggie Haig.

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