So - what will the vote result be tonight?

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

That’s the whole joy of it. Nobody is electable. The redundancy of the party system is becoming increasingly apparent and that’s a great thing.

Agreed. Let's go back to the Georgian-Victorian parliamentary system.

With a limited franchise. The thick, the northerners and Tory sympathisers and other right wingers shouldn't be allowed to vote. Just me and my missus in fact.

But we need a form of PR to break it. {How did you vote in the AV ref btw} Ideally STV with multi-member constituencies.

But Parl won't vote for that. Turkeys don't vote for Xmas. Well, except poor, northern, racist turkeys who don't understand the basics of international trade.

[Rich]

That’s the whole joy of it. Nobody is electable. The redundancy of the party system is becoming increasingly apparent and that’s a great thing.

But how would we know who to vote for?! We would actually have to go and listen to things they had to say...

[7sisters]

Thing is, the only way that can happen is by destroying the Tory party - and very possibly the Labour Party.
All in all, a GE would be my favoured outcome. Imagine an election contested by two parties who can’t summon up a coherent or meaningful manifesto on the main question we’re voting on?
The death of party politics!
Effectively electing individuals rather than parties!
Actual democracy!
Wouldn’t that be marvellous?

That would depend upon the individuals, shirley ?

[Burney]

But how would we know who to vote for?! We would actually have to go and listen to things they had to say...

Yes! An engaged, self-selecting electorate - What a radical democratic notion, eh? No more voting for colours because that’s what grandad did. Marvellous!

[Burney]

That would depend upon the individuals, shirley ?

Exactly. Fourth-rate individuals would no longer be protected by wrapping themselves in party colours. Surely you must see the benefits?

[Rich]

Yes! An engaged, self-selecting electorate - What a radical democratic notion, eh? No more voting for colours because that’s what grandad did. Marvellous!

Would it not make it difficult to agree on anything, though? Anything from general decision making to electing a Cabinet.

[Burney]

Would it not make it difficult to agree on anything, though? Anything from general decision making to electing a Cabinet.

Since when did democracy become about agreeing on stuff?

[Ash]

Agreed. Let's go back to the Georgian-Victorian parliamentary system.

With a limited franchise. The thick, the northerners and Tory sympathisers and other right wingers shouldn't be allowed to vote. Just me and my missus in fact.

But we need a form of PR to break it. {How did you vote in the AV ref btw} Ideally STV with multi-member constituencies.

But Parl won't vote for that. Turkeys don't vote for Xmas. Well, except poor, northern, racist turkeys who don't understand the basics of international trade.

At least they have an understanding of the basics of democratic accountability. And they cannot possibly be as thick as elitist, fake-left cùnts who think they'll be able to implement socialist policies after the next election when their darling neoliberal EU won't even let Italy pass a Keynsian, anti-austerity budget.

See you on the other side of the barricade. I'll be the one in the yellow vest. You'll be the one egging on the coppers with the machine guns.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

At least they have an understanding of the basics of democratic accountability. And they cannot possibly be as thick as elitist, fake-left cùnts who think they'll be able to implement socialist policies after the next election when their darling neoliberal EU won't even let Italy pass a Keynsian, anti-austerity budget.

See you on the other side of the barricade. I'll be the one in the yellow vest. You'll be the one egging on the coppers with the machine guns.

Really, Ash?

I'm in Paris atm.

Was at the Gilet Jaune manif at the Arc de Triomphe on Sat. Tear gassed several times.

Wanna see the 5 min film about the French boxer who beat the CRS up the week before that I made in the 2-3 days before arriving on Tues and going to the protest on Sat?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wx42uqb921...0720p.mp4?dl=0

But, yeah, I'm the neo-lib Tory and you're the rebel.

[Ash]

Really, Ash?

I'm in Paris atm.

Was at the Gilet Jaune manif at the Arc de Triomphe on Sat. Tear gassed several times.

Wanna see the 5 min film about the French boxer who beat the CRS up the week before that I made in the 2-3 days before arriving on Tues and going to the protest on Sat?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wx42uqb921...0720p.mp4?dl=0

But, yeah, I'm the neo-lib Tory and you're the rebel.

Fair play to you, GG - but Macron epitomises the EU elite, so how can you be supporting both sides?