Nice article from David Smith in the Times on Brexit and May's deal

[Monty92]

Yes, that’s true but neither of those is May’s fault. The former was always going to happen because of internal politics and once that had happened, the latter was unavoidable.

I find it staggering that so many people are happy to describe how terrible the deal is without recognising the position that May was in for reasons beyond her control.

I don't disagree, although I find it more incredible how few remainers will acknowledge how badly they've sabotaged the entire process.

[WES]

I don't disagree, although I find it more incredible how few remainers will acknowledge how badly they've sabotaged the entire process.

Yes, them and Labour playing politics put May right in it. Although I wonder how much that really impacted the EU negotiations.

Surely they were always going to approach them from a ‘you can’t handle a hard Brexit and we both know it’ angle?

[Monty92]

Yes, them and Labour playing politics put May right in it. Although I wonder how much that really impacted the EU negotiations.

Surely they were always going to approach them from a ‘you can’t handle a hard Brexit and we both know it’ angle?

You don't think Boris or David Davis would have seriously entertained a No Deal had they - as was entirely possible - become leader?

[WES]

You don't think Boris or David Davis would have seriously entertained a No Deal had they - as was entirely possible - become leader?

No, I think they just use a hard Brexit as a stick to beat May with. I don't think anyone in power would ever chance the impact of no deal.

[SWv2]

The deal will ultimately be backed by your UK Government because it is the only deal available and presumably it, no matter what concessions you have made, is better than a no deal scenario.

And I say all of this as a man who has no idea what deal you have agreed as quite frankly I find it all very boring.