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Thread: And the winner of the Swedish election is......

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    And the winner of the Swedish election is......

    Well, there isn’t really one One mandate splits the two main blocks and both want to govern but don’t want to work with The Swedish Democrats who are on the outside looking in. The socialists have resorted to begging the opposition not to be an opposition

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige View Post
    Well, there isn’t really one One mandate splits the two main blocks and both want to govern but don’t want to work with The Swedish Democrats who are on the outside looking in. The socialists have resorted to begging the opposition not to be an opposition
    Who'da guessed that result..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IUFG View Post
    Who'da guessed that result..?
    It’s pretty much a carbon copy of 2014 albeit slightly closer in the voting between the two blocks. At some point either side will have to give in and work with the “nazis”. The funny thing is the Social Democrats and Swedish Democrats are pretty close in terms of policies, even when it comes to immigration. It’s the whole “Nazi” stigma which is what’s keeping them from forming a coalition. Had they not had that history and were just an anti-immigration party they’d probably be ironing out the details on a coalition this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige View Post
    Well, there isn’t really one One mandate splits the two main blocks and both want to govern but don’t want to work with The Swedish Democrats who are on the outside looking in. The socialists have resorted to begging the opposition not to be an opposition
    The question being whether that result will force the other parties to adopt more right-wing policies or whether they will simply carry on blithely wrecking the country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    The question being whether that result will force the other parties to adopt more right-wing policies or whether they will simply carry on blithely wrecking the country?
    Hard to know right now. In either block you have immigration extremists. The Centre Party in the centre right block are very pro-immigration as are the Greens and the Left Party in the other centre left block. The Centre Party helped the centre left block (the Social Democrats were forced into it by the Greens and Left Party) push through a bill allowing Afghan “children” who had applied for asylum prior to 2016 but are now over 18, to stay in Sweden if they enrolled at a college regardless of whether their application gets rejected because they are now over 18 and no longer entitled to the extra protection being a child refugee grants you.

    This is the sort of **** we have to deal with.
    Last edited by Billy Goat Sverige; 09-10-2018 at 09:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige View Post
    Hard to know right now. In either block you have immigration extremists. The Centre Party in the centre right block are very pro-immigration as are the Greens and the Left Party in the other centre left block. The Centre Party helped the centre left block (the Social Democrats were forced into it by the Greens and Left Party) push through a bill allowing Afghan “children” who had applied for asylum prior to 2016 but are now over 18, to stay in Sweden if they enrolled at a college regardless of whether their application gets rejected because they are now over 18 and no longer entitled to the extra protection being a child refugee grants you.

    This is the sort of **** we have to deal with.
    Hmmm. Sounds to me like they're planning to just try and ignore a massive chunk of the electorate on the issue of immigration, then?

    That'll end well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Hmmm. Sounds to me like they're planning to just try and ignore a massive chunk of the electorate on the issue of immigration, then?

    That'll end well.
    That’s the thing. The Social Democrats, Moderates and Swedish Democrats account for 65% of the vote and are for restrictive immigration. You can even add the Chritisan Democrats to that and you’ve got over 70% of the vote. The trouble is the way they’ve aligned themselves they’ll always need to be propped up by parties who are for a more open stance on immigration and they end up having to bend to their will on some occasions leading to **** like that bill being passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Hmmm. Sounds to me like they're planning to just try and ignore a massive chunk of the electorate on the issue of immigration, then?

    That'll end well.
    That is the basic function of a political party. Unfortunately, a great mass of the electorate hold ill-informed views that would destroy a country. I am afraid they have to be ignored sometimes.

    Probably not on this occasion, admittedly. Britain was fine while we ignored the views or you and your ilk. It has fallen to pieces since we gave you a voice.

    Democracy is a pain in the arse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    That is the basic function of a political party. Unfortunately, a great mass of the electorate hold ill-informed views that would destroy a country. I am afraid they have to be ignored sometimes.

    Probably not on this occasion, admittedly. Britain was fine while we ignored the views or you and your ilk. It has fallen to pieces since we gave you a voice.

    Democracy is a pain in the arse.
    Britain is a classic example of the fact that the political class cannot simply ignore issues because they don't like them and hope to get away with it. Sooner or later, they'll come back to bite you on the arse. A classic example would Blair's craven and cynical failure to offer the promised referendum on Lisbon. That led directly to Brexit. That referendum could have been the pressure valve needed to keep us in the EU (not least by arresting some of the most unpopular aspects of the modern EU). Instead, he bottled it and resentment grew. The result was Brexit.

    The attempt by political elites to ignore or suppress public sentiment on key issues only ever results in a more extreme version of the thing they feared in the first place. This is a lesson history teaches us over and over again. And yet short-sighted politicians and their lackeys (ie you) ignore it over and over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige View Post
    Well, there isn’t really one One mandate splits the two main blocks and both want to govern but don’t want to work with The Swedish Democrats who are on the outside looking in. The socialists have resorted to begging the opposition not to be an opposition
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