Hoeness seems to be taking this Ozil business in his stride

[Luis Anaconda]

From what I remember, I'm pretty sure Bavarians see themselves as elite and separate to the rest of Germany. That notwithstanding, his comments were harsh but resonate with a fair few of us who don't understand the game, of course. .

You're not wrong on the first part - this is indeed true. As for the second, I'm fairly sure Lionel Messi has never saved a penalty, yet is considered a good player. Özil isn't in the side to win tackles, he's there to create chances - he is phenomenally good at this (even in his "dreadful" world cup he created more than anyone in the group stages). Perphaps in the "fair few of you who don't understand the game, of course" did't think that such a player is a luxury rather than a vitally important asset, it would be worth taking you seriously

*I may have been a bit annoyed by Bayern fans this morning

[Luis Anaconda]

I must say, la, I don't know how to feel about your new-found loathing for Bayern. I understand it, of course, but still feel that it's not quite appropriate to get all het up about what is when all's said and done a foreign team.

they play at the bottom of my garden * and to be fair for a few seasons we played them as often as anyone else


*not literally but close enough

[Sir C]

From what I remember, I'm pretty sure Bavarians see themselves as elite and separate to the rest of Germany. That notwithstanding, his comments were harsh but resonate with a fair few of us who don't understand the game, of course. .

Can yopu think of a reason why, on an international level, English football has been shít since 1970, while Germany consistently win trophies and countries as small as Belgium and Holland regularly do far better than England?

Here's a tiny clue. Ever since the early 70s people have been saying that English football needs to get over its obsession with running around a lot at the expense of technique, and try to coach some skill into young players, yet nothing at all has changed.

Are you starting to understand?

[Burney]

Can yopu think of a reason why, on an international level, English football has been shít since 1970, while Germany consistently win trophies and countries as small as Belgium and Holland regularly do far better than England?

Here's a tiny clue. Ever since the early 70s people have been saying that English football needs to get over its obsession with running around a lot at the expense of technique, and try to coach some skill into young players, yet nothing at all has changed.

Are you starting to understand?

Yes, but running around a lot is more fun to watch.

[Sir C]

Yes, but running around a lot is more fun to watch.

It's lumpen, it's vulgar and it's ugly.

Football is The Greatest Game In The World because it is a mixture of strength, delicacy, power, skill, speed, athleticism, guile, intelligence and courage. All of these qualities go into making a player and making a spectacle.

You might enjoy a diet of Wimbledon against Stoke, but you shouldn't condemn the rest of us to it.

[Viva Prat Vegas]

You said the 1970 World Cup was played at a snails pace

[Burney]

It's lumpen, it's vulgar and it's ugly.

Football is The Greatest Game In The World because it is a mixture of strength, delicacy, power, skill, speed, athleticism, guile, intelligence and courage. All of these qualities go into making a player and making a spectacle.

You might enjoy a diet of Wimbledon against Stoke, but you shouldn't condemn the rest of us to it.

And yet the English game is the most watched and most highly valued of all the domestic leagues in the world.

That doesn't make your assessment wrong, of course, but it is another reason why it hasn't become more refined. It's in nobody's financial interest that it should.

[Luis Anaconda]

It's lumpen, it's vulgar and it's ugly.

Football is The Greatest Game In The World because it is a mixture of strength, delicacy, power, skill, speed, athleticism, guile, intelligence and courage. All of these qualities go into making a player and making a spectacle.

You might enjoy a diet of Wimbledon against Stoke, but you shouldn't condemn the rest of us to it.

It's definitely the running about bit I enjoy most here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6UPlEzT1bU

[Peter]

And yet the English game is the most watched and most highly valued of all the domestic leagues in the world.

That doesn't make your assessment wrong, of course, but it is another reason why it hasn't become more refined. It's in nobody's financial interest that it should.

It wouldnt be the most watched if it was full of english players. People dont get up in the middle of the night to watch Eric Dier.

[Sir C]

It's definitely the running about bit I enjoy most here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6UPlEzT1bU

Of course 7sisters would have been there screaming for him to get stuck in and make a tackle...