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    Much of the world's media are clearly hating every minute of this summit.

    The fact that NK has just committed to complete and immediate denuclearisation - i.e. a huge American foreign policy success and general good thing - is gritting their collective sh1t in no uncertain terms.

    It's actually rather glorious to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    The fact that NK has just committed to complete and immediate denuclearisation - i.e. a huge American foreign policy success and general good thing - is gritting their collective sh1t in no uncertain terms.

    It's actually rather glorious to watch.
    But what about human rights???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    But what about human rights???
    What about them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    What about them?
    Exactly. Ultimately he has concluded a deal with a dictator with silly hair that commits him to getting rid of weapons he almost certainly doesn't have.

    Bad deal!!!

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    Lets not forget about the pledged investment funding, as yet undefined. #nosuchthimgasafreekimchi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Exactly. Ultimately he has concluded a deal with a dictator with silly hair that commits him to getting rid of weapons he almost certainly doesn't have.

    Bad deal!!!
    Might stop him firing rockets at family members tied to stakes though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Exactly. Ultimately he has concluded a deal with a dictator with silly hair that commits him to getting rid of weapons he almost certainly doesn't have.

    Bad deal!!!
    No. He has taken a rogue nuclear state off the map by forcing a dictator to cease fvcking about with nukes he demonstrably did have and giving him a face-saving way of backing down that doesn't involve war and massively reduces regional tensions.

    Face facts: it's a strategic and diplomatic triumph of the sort nobody's seen since the fall of the Iron Curtain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    No. He has taken a rogue nuclear state off the map by forcing a dictator to cease fvcking about with nukes he demonstrably did have and giving him a face-saving way of backing down that doesn't involve war and massively reduces regional tensions.

    Face facts: it's a strategic and diplomatic triumph of the sort nobody's seen since the fall of the Iron Curtain.
    the success (or otherwise) of diplomatic deals are not weighed the minute the meeting ends. Lets see what happens shall we.....

    He still hasn't built that ****ing wall.....

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    Oh give it a rest you swivel eyed loon. They conducted a few clumsy explosions

    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    It's a strategic and diplomatic triumph of the sort nobody's seen since the fall of the Iron Curtain.
    under a mountain which then collapsed. I think seeing your beloved Brexit disintegrate before your very eyes hasn't so much clouded your judgement as sent you completely off your rocker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    No. He has taken a rogue nuclear state off the map by forcing a dictator to cease fvcking about with nukes he demonstrably did have and giving him a face-saving way of backing down that doesn't involve war and massively reduces regional tensions.

    Face facts: it's a strategic and diplomatic triumph of the sort nobody's seen since the fall of the Iron Curtain.
    Alternatively, NK have shown that the way to discourage the US from attacking you is to develop nukes, which will give you something to negotiate with when your position of strength brings the US to the table.

    Of course at this point it's a declaration rather than a deal. Talks agreeing to have more talks, but it's a start. In return for a testing freeze, DJT pledged to end the provocative military exercises which is a big win for NK, and said he would eventually like to bring the US troops home from SK, which would certainly guarrantee Norkish denukification. Meanwhile NK gets space to continue the important peace talks with SK.

    All in all a good start imo. wd both sides.

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