How much money do you reckon we could get back

[Billy Goat Sverige]

For Mustafi? At this point I’m starting to think it would be so low that you might as well keep him and have him as 4th choice.

[Peter]

For Mustafi? At this point I’m starting to think it would be so low that you might as well keep him and have him as 4th choice.

You would have to start by finding two players better than him.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

You would have to start by finding two players better than him.

Not that hard considering he’s ****ing ****.

[PSRB]

Not that hard considering he’s ****ing ****.

Thing is, he'll do a lot of very good stuff and then just has complete brain fade and usually more than once.

[Peter]

Not that hard considering he’s ****ing ****.

I think we are such a mess that you cant really judge a defender in this side. Mustafi isnt ****ing ****, he is just at sea in this team as are many others.

Koscielny haas had periods where he has looked ****ing awful this season. And that isKoscielny.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

You would have to start by finding two players better than him.

I reckon he'd be fine in a team that can defend. We can go out and buy the best defenders in the world but they would end up looking lost at sea in the current setup.

[Peter]

I reckon he'd be fine in a team that can defend. We can go out and buy the best defenders in the world but they would end up looking lost at sea in the current setup.

Agreed. I am not convinced that Tony Adams could hold a back four together in this side.

That said, some of the mistakes are still, to some extent, inforgiveable. But then these current league games are among the most pointless we have played in years, with a major focus elsewhere. I wouldnt judge anyone solely on these games.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

Agreed. I am not convinced that Tony Adams could hold a back four together in this side.

That said, some of the mistakes are still, to some extent, inforgiveable. But then these current league games are among the most pointless we have played in years, with a major focus elsewhere. I wouldnt judge anyone solely on these games.

The individual mistakes are a consequence of our overall collective failings. We are not a unit and so, as a result, individuals are under pressure and are always going to be easier to isolate individuals inevitably leading to individual mistakes.

[IUFG]

For Mustafi? At this point I’m starting to think it would be so low that you might as well keep him and have him as 4th choice.

There has to be a defender bought in the summer, and I'd rather have the likes of #gulp# Shawcross in the team, than him. Surely he's got a release clause when they get relegated.

I assume Boateng and Hummels are before him in the international running. Even Howedes must be; and he's nearly dead.

Mustafi will end up being another one running his contract down in the stiffs.

[PSRB]

There has to be a defender bought in the summer, and I'd rather have the likes of #gulp# Shawcross in the team, than him. Surely he's got a release clause when they get relegated.

I assume Boateng and Hummels are before him in the international running. Even Howedes must be; and he's nearly dead.

Mustafi will end up being another one running his contract down in the stiffs.

Only 1 player I want from Stoke, Butland. Shawcross is very average