Anyhow. Is there the remotest possibilty of scraping a dignified result tonight ?

[barrybueno]

I am now so desperate to get the post Wenger era under way that I want us on the end of a total rout. When the old tit goes we will enter at least a decade of mediocrity so if he hangs on for another five years I might not live to see us ever win the Champions League

Sorry to break it to you H but Arsenal will never win the CL in your lifetime. If they couldn't win it with the teams Wenger put together in his first 10 odd years then they can forget it now.

Although it is a cup competition and as such can be fluked (every English team to win it has proved this) Not Arsenal though, they don't seem to fluke things like the others.

[Ash]

Sorry to break it to you H but Arsenal will never win the CL in your lifetime. If they couldn't win it with the teams Wenger put together in his first 10 odd years then they can forget it now.

Although it is a cup competition and as such can be fluked (every English team to win it has proved this) Not Arsenal though, they don't seem to fluke things like the others.

Quite right, Barry. I actually started to write something similar but I got my words tangled and couldn't be bothered to sort it out.

In short: Arsenal will never win the European Cup in our lifetime.