Mustafi was ****ing diabolical on that first goal. Chambers got done in exactly

[Sir C]

Sorry, sc. That is never, ever a foul.

What it was, was worse than school-boy defending.

A push in the back isn't a foul? Is this some sort of collective delusion? I don't understand the reasoning here. If you push an opponent in the back, it's a foul. Where is the ambiguity here?

[Billy Goat Sverige]

Sorry, sc. That is never, ever a foul.

What it was, was worse than school-boy defending.

Edit - just rewatched, Aguero didn't push Mustafi, he stood his ground.
3m 11s https://www.arsenal.com/news/carabao...al-match-video

Look at the positioning on the goal kick. Amateurish.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

I disagree about the first goal. If Mustafi was confident he was under the flight of the ball, Aguero running goal-side is irrelevant. Mustafi can simply stand his ground and head the ball away. Aguero pushing him in the back, however gently, knocks him from under the ball and is a foul. It doesn't look good, I grant you. But it is a foul.

I don’t think Aguero even ran goal side. Aguero was just taking up his usual position on a goal kick and Mustafi either completely ignored him or was completely unaware he was even there. Mustafi was on the halfway line when Bravo was taking the goal kick

[Sir C]

I don’t think Aguero even ran goal side. Aguero was just taking up his usual position on a goal kick and Mustafi either completely ignored him or was completely unaware he was even there. Mustafi was on the halfway line when Bravo was taking the goal kick

Mustafi placed himself under the flight of the ball. Aguero ran 5 yards beyond the flight of the ball, then ran back and pushed Mustafi out of the way as he was about to head the ball clear.

I'm interested in what you think Mustafi should have done. Given the opportunity to stand and head the ball away, are you suggesting he should ignore the ball and follow Aguero?

[Billy Goat Sverige]

Mustafi placed himself under the flight of the ball. Aguero ran 5 yards beyond the flight of the ball, then ran back and pushed Mustafi out of the way as he was about to head the ball clear.

I'm interested in what you think Mustafi should have done. Given the opportunity to stand and head the ball away, are you suggesting he should ignore the ball and follow Aguero?

He should have been well inside his own half with everything in front of him. Then he would have known where Aguero was and he would’ve been running on to the ball trying to header it instead of backpedaling from the halfway line. That also would’ve made it possible for him to do what Aguero did when they were both challenging for it. It was poor positioning that lead to the goal.

[Sir C]

He should have been well inside his own half with everything in front of him. Then he would have known where Aguero was and he would’ve been running on to the ball trying to header it instead of backpedaling from the halfway line. That also would’ve made it possible for him to do what Aguero did when they were both challenging for it. It was poor positioning that lead to the goal.

Well he was in the correct position to head the ball clear, which is his primary concern. Aguero took that position from him, not by going shoulder to shoulder or by challenging him for the ball, but by pushing him in the back. Have I been hallucinating, or something?

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

I disagree about the first goal. If Mustafi was confident he was under the flight of the ball, Aguero running goal-side is irrelevant. Mustafi can simply stand his ground and head the ball away. Aguero pushing him in the back, however gently, knocks him from under the ball and is a foul. It doesn't look good, I grant you. But it is a foul.

I'm assuming that you are doing this for sh*ts and giggles or you may well be having a senior moment. I can't tell which.

It was not a foul and Mustafi was caught under the ball. His starting position was f*cking dreadful to begin with.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

The same way as the other night against Östersund for the third. Not even sure why he set up to play on the counter when he had a back 5 and no wingers.

JUST LEAVE!!!!

I don't mind losing games if the players on the pitch have given it their all and done everything possible. I do have a problem when players, to quote George Graham once upon a time, "accept defeat easily". This is yet another example (spectacular, even) in a long string of performances where that quote can be applied.

[taxman10]

It’s not a foul. Quite why you are getting so fixated on one incident in 90 minutes I have no idea, our defence was god awful all game.

[Sir C]

It’s not a foul. Quite why you are getting so fixated on one incident in 90 minutes I have no idea, our defence was god awful all game.

Oh, we were remarkably poor. Embarrassingly bad. Awful in many, many ways.

But that doesn't change the truth. Facts are not altered by the accepted narrative.