Nothing to see here. Just Labour threatening to compulsorily purchase private

[Sir C]

So are you saying Sir C lives in a mansion surrounded by low life scum? He needs some of R's hounds to keep him safe

I have African gentlemen who patrol the perimeter and keep us safe in our beds, p.

[Pokster]

I have African gentlemen who patrol the perimeter and keep us safe in our beds, p.

Are this the ones that West Ham didn't want

[Burney]

So are you saying Sir C lives in a mansion surrounded by low life scum? He needs some of R's hounds to keep him safe

He essentially lives in a metaphor.

[redgunamo]

So are you saying Sir C lives in a mansion surrounded by low life scum? He needs some of R's hounds to keep him safe

Right. And one or two good hunting rifles.

[Ash]

You could have it if you wanted though, but you don't. All the rest is just some sort of virtue-signalling malarkey.

Decisions have consequences

I'm fairly sure I don't have access to local authority property. Nor am I trying to signal any virtue imo. Just discussing housing stock.

[Ash]

The stock gets replaced if there's sufficient money in it for the developers. If you artificially create a mass of low-income consumers (as happened between 1997 and 2010), you inevitably eat up the existing stock and give no economic incentive for the market to create more homes - because those consumers cannot pay the sums needed to make the deal profitable. The state then becomes the only party capable of breaking this impasse and it - in a society where property rights are enshrined in law - must still dance to the market's tune.

I agree with you about the effects of immigration on the market but if I was neo-liberal like my Bulgarian friend, for example, who thinks that there should be a completely free market in labour, and that the market should decide when people stop moving to this country (when it is worse than Bulgaria, for example), then I would suggest that you accept market realities and not interfere with it by imposing socialist immigration controls.

Another state-interference in free markets is the prevention of building on the green belt by middle-class nimbys.

You see, this free market mularkey has it limits, wouldn't you agree?

[redgunamo]

I'm fairly sure I don't have access to local authority property. Nor am I trying to signal any virtue imo. Just discussing housing stock.

But everything is connected to everything else, as the man said.

[Ash]

But everything is connected to everything else, as the man said.

Yeah. It's Wenger's fault.

[Burney]

I agree with you about the effects of immigration on the market but if I was neo-liberal like my Bulgarian friend, for example, who thinks that there should be a completely free market in labour, and that the market should decide when people stop moving to this country (when it is worse than Bulgaria, for example), then I would suggest that you accept market realities and not interfere with it by imposing socialist immigration controls.

Another state-interference in free markets is the prevention of building on the green belt by middle-class nimbys.

You see, this free market mularkey has it limits, wouldn't you agree?

NIMBYism isn't state interference, though. It's usually based on the use of existing laws to protect the rights of existing property owners. You might as well argue that copyright is an infringement of the free market.

I agree that the green belt is a restriction of the free market, but without it, the whole of the south east of England would essentially be a London-lite sprawl. However, I don't remember arguing in favour of an unregulated free market.

[redgunamo]

NIMBYism isn't state interference, though. It's usually based on the use of existing laws to protect the rights of existing property owners. You might as well argue that copyright is an infringement of the free market.

I agree that the green belt is a restriction of the free market, but without it, the whole of the south east of England would essentially be a London-lite sprawl. However, I don't remember arguing in favour of an unregulated free market.

Hold on. Isn't that the very definition of NIMBYism?