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Thread: Whoa! 'Theresa May to call Arlene Foster later today to pitch border deal'?

  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    You can't give something 'back' that someone has never had, p. ou can give it to them (and welcome to it, God knows), but that's it. We didn't give the 26 counties 'back', we gave them to the newly-founded entity of the Irish Republic. Y
    We gave them back to the Irish people, if we couldn't give them back to the Irish State.

    That's the trouble with your ilk. You only recognise the ruling class of a nation. The ordinary people just don't exist.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    You can't give something 'back' that someone has never had, p. ou can give it to them (and welcome to it, God knows), but that's it. We didn't give the 26 counties 'back', we gave them to the newly-founded entity of the Irish Republic. Y
    We actually didnt do that. We created a free state within the commonwealth but outside the Union, pretty much what it had been before 1801. We did NOT grant independence or an Irish Republic. The Irish just ignored that and took it as independence, then later declared it themselves.

    Lets not quibble over what to call it. We all want Northern Ireland gone so lets just get on with it.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    The impossibly stupid might just be an act of genius in the current climate. Or, more likely, an act of impossible stupidity.
    That or she's showing willing in the certain knowledge that the DUP will kibosh it. That way, the political heat falls on them rather than her.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    We gave them back to the Irish people, if we couldn't give them back to the Irish State.

    That's the trouble with your ilk. You only recognise the ruling class of a nation. The ordinary people just don't exist.
    And, if I may say so, the trouble with your 'ilk' is that it actually believes there is such an entity as 'the people' rather than a few million individuals.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    That or she's showing willing in the certain knowledge that the DUP will kibosh it. That way, the political heat falls on them rather than her.
    WTO here we come

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    We gave them back to the Irish people, if we couldn't give them back to the Irish State.

    That's the trouble with your ilk. You only recognise the ruling class of a nation. The ordinary people just don't exist.
    Politically they dont exist other than as minority share holders with inconsequential voting rights.

    *******s to ordinary people. They shouldn't be so ****ing ordinary

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    WTO here we come
    As an idea, it works. She can legitimately say that the majority party in NI as represented at Westminster has rejected the deal and that she has to respect their wishes. I do wonder if she's actually clever enough to have thought that one through, though.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    And, if I may say so, the trouble with your 'ilk' is that it actually believes there is such an entity as 'the people' rather than a few million individuals.
    'Let the people decide.'

    And we did. We made history.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Politically they dont exist other than as minority share holders with inconsequential voting rights.

    *******s to ordinary people. They shouldn't be so ****ing ordinary
    So we're here again. You elitist Blairite running dogs!

    Yes, what did the deplorables ever do with their votes eh?

    Power to the Demos!

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    'Let the people decide.'

    And we did. We made history.
    Yes.... 'made history' is one of those phrases that really can go either way isnt it

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