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Thread: 8 days of undulterated bliss in the United Arab Emirates

  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    That's certainly true. We were as well staying out of that shītshow, though. Although we could have shown them a few tricks we'd learnt in the Malayan Emergency.
    Wd Harold Wilson. Good Huddersfield lad.

  2. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    How could it be proven incorrect since it was never tried? The Americans fought the war with one hand tied behind their backs. They couldn't stop the movement of men and munitions along the Ho Chi Minh trail because they weren't prepared to go into Cambodia and Laos in sufficient numbers - let alone into North Vietnam. Only by fighting an untrammelled war irrespective of boundaries could the US possibly have won.
    No, they would have lost in the long run anyway. All subsequent analysis has shown this to be correct including McNamara's. The overwhelming consensus post '75, even amongst those involved in the decision making from 63-68, was that there was no military option that would have led to a victory. Many knew that as early as '63.

    They had two choices; get out, or commit to staying and trying to control the country as an occupying force. Even ignoring the fact that they absolutely did not want to do the latter, even if they did try the North Vietnamese would simply have turned it into a guerilla war and waited them out. They weren't going anywhere, it was their country after all.

    The overwhelming majority of Vietnamese people wanted foreign powers out and the reunification of the country. Given this, the Americans were fighting the people and as a result were always going to ultimately lose. As Johnson said, it was a war for the hearts and minds of the Vietnamese people, and the military was not the tool to win that fight.

  3. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by World's End Stella View Post
    are now over and all I have to show for it is this wonderful tan and a liver in need of repair.

    Other than the wonderful memories of laying in the salt water of the Gulf of Oman whilst gazing at the Al Hajar mountains, refreshing swims with my wife and children in the quite wonderful pool, the endless array of pints, cocktails and bubbly, the magnificence of the burrata at the Italian restaurant, the genius of the roast duck at the Asian restaurant, the mouth watering steaks at the Gonu Bar overlooking the Gulf of Oman and the general bonhomie with the families whom we met and enjoyed many meals and discussions, of course.

    'Ave that you Dutch Paddy c*nt
    What's the rule on cavorting with local Emirati chicks, eh? Does Arsenal's sponsorship deal extent to her supporters, giving you free rein in the local sex pits? Show the Gunners badge, ten bucks off? Asking for a friend.

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