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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    I'm not really sure how one would go about not being a fan of Tangled Up In Blue, tbh.

    I mean, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts aside, there isn't a bad song on the whole album, is there?
    Well, now that you mention it I may as well say that the problem here is thee notion of the playlist. Dylan should be enjoyed by the album, not some random selection. Blood on the Tracks, Desire, Highway 61, Bringing it all Back Home and most important of all, The Freewheeling Bob Dylan.

    Playlists can go whistle. Obviously its fine to skip Lily, Rosemary and the JAck of Hearts.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Well, now that you mention it I may as well say that the problem here is thee notion of the playlist. Dylan should be enjoyed by the album, not some random selection. Blood on the Tracks, Desire, Highway 61, Bringing it all Back Home and most important of all, The Freewheeling Bob Dylan.

    Playlists can go whistle. Obviously its fine to skip Lily, Rosemary and the JAck of Hearts.
    In general or simply in relation to this artist / a single artist.

    Bit too modern a concept for you Pedro?

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by SWv2 View Post
    In general or simply in relation to this artist / a single artist.

    Bit too modern a concept for you Pedro?
    It is a bit, yes. It was bad enough when CDs arrived and destroyed the notion of a song closing side 1 and opening side 2. Now you have people letting a piece of software choose random songs from an artist. It is obviously worse with someone like Dylan's who has a huge back catalogue but the principle itself is concerning.

    Imagine leaping from Highway Patrolman to Glory Days. It is just several kinds of wrong.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    It is a bit, yes. It was bad enough when CDs arrived and destroyed the notion of a song closing side 1 and opening side 2. Now you have people letting a piece of software choose random songs from an artist. It is obviously worse with someone like Dylan's who has a huge back catalogue but the principle itself is concerning.

    Imagine leaping from Highway Patrolman to Glory Days. It is just several kinds of wrong.
    Presumably you walk out of any concert when an artist doesn't play songs in album order then?

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    Presumably you walk out of any concert when an artist doesn't play songs in album order then?
    I went to see Blur a number of years ago... was when the "best of" had come out, they played the whole album in the order they appeared
    Northern Monkey ... who can't upload a bleeding Avatar

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    Presumably you walk out of any concert when an artist doesn't play songs in album order then?
    Well that is a live show and therefore totally different. One expects an artist to create a set list that makes sense and creates an atmosphere. One also expects them to create versions of the songs that work in the set list.

    Either way, it is the artist dictating the selection, not a machine.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Well that is a live show and therefore totally different. One expects an artist to create a set list that makes sense and creates an atmosphere. One also expects them to create versions of the songs that work in the set list.

    Either way, it is the artist dictating the selection, not a machine.
    Playlists aren't dictated by a machine but by demand from the customer. And quite right, too.

    You're dated on this one, Peter old bean.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by World's End Stella View Post
    Playlists aren't dictated by a machine but by demand from the customer. And quite right, too.

    You're dated on this one, Peter old bean.
    Oh, I know that. Its entirely my problem. And you are right, I was thinking of a random selection.

    Nevertheless, I stand by everything I said.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Well that is a live show and therefore totally different. One expects an artist to create a set list that makes sense and creates an atmosphere. One also expects them to create versions of the songs that work in the set list.

    Either way, it is the artist dictating the selection, not a machine.
    They are still the same songs though for all your protestations and you accept songs can be played in an order other than they appear on an album. I don't think WES is a machine (not according to your mum anyway) so a playlist is not necessarily compiled by one, as you seem to think. Quiet possible for those listening to an artist's complete recorded work to select songs that work together or are pleasing to them, surely? Would you only go to a gallery and insist on seeing an artist's portfolio in the order he/she created works of art of would you trust a curator to put together a show that reflects the artist's assembled works in the most interesting light?

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    They are still the same songs though for all your protestations and you accept songs can be played in an order other than they appear on an album. I don't think WES is a machine (not according to your mum anyway) so a playlist is not necessarily compiled by one, as you seem to think. Quiet possible for those listening to an artist's complete recorded work to select songs that work together or are pleasing to them, surely? Would you only go to a gallery and insist on seeing an artist's portfolio in the order he/she created works of art of would you trust a curator to put together a show that reflects the artist's assembled works in the most interesting light?
    I have attended a few musical performances in recent years where an artist is celebrating the anniversary of an album* and they have played the entire concert in the exact sequence of the record.

    I am not convinced by it as a live experience, and that is before one overlooks the inevitable fact that most albums have low points**

    *A theme which appears to have lost the run of itself
    ** Apart from All Mod Cons

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