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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    Will respond to this next week
    Don't feel as though you have to

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Don't feel as though you have to
    You speak for us all there, p.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Not really.
    Well, yes. And no. If violence is already a part of life then one doesn't actually need to be seen to encourage it while very much encouraging it indeed. Like Tony Blair wearing his anti-War/CND credentials (metaphorically) while launching Iraqi Freedom.

    Maybe the important thing is that you don't actually condone violence.
    Last edited by redgunamo; 08-18-2017 at 04:26 PM.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    My point is that no all-encompassing 'community' exists in that sense. Such terms are always imposed from without and are invariably inaccurate.

    That does not, however, alter the fact that, were one to look at these crimes in an epidemiological manner, only a fool would dismiss the clear correlation between the ethnicity, culture and religion of its perpetrators and the incidence of such criminality. From such evidence, any decent epidemiologist would feel there were reasonable grounds for assuming and investigating a causal link.

    So the point is this: if we would apply this logic in a scientific sense without a moment's hesitation, why would we not apply it here?

    The answer, of course, is cowardice.
    No, cowardice is unfair. I doubt you, or any of us, have had the environmental upbringing and education that would prompt us to automatically conclude that these crimes demand to be be seen through the prism of the current interpretation of the ethnicity, culture and religion of their perpetrators.

    Rules are only useful if everyone agrees to, and accepts, them before the game begins. After the fact is no good.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

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