June 2015: Parliament votes for EU referendum

[Monty92]

"That is all"

Yeah, just a tiny manifesto pledge. Should have been in the small print, really.

be an absolute catastrophe. The leavers were only having a laugh anyway. Even Berni accepts we can't really leave.

84% of them voted for the two main parties, just as they have in every election in british history. That tells you precisely nothing, particularly as neither party was pro-leave at the previous election or the referendum itself.

They both undertook to honour the referendum- that is all. If you think the option of voting for the hopelessly disgraced Lib Dems was a realistic one for a remain voter you really don't understand how british politics works.

[Peter]

"That is all"

Yeah, just a tiny manifesto pledge. Should have been in the small print, really.

There is a difference between 'pro-leave' and honouring the referendum. Can you not see that?

If they were both pro-leave why would there be any problem with the tiny majority? The Labour Party is not pro-leave and never has been.

[Ash]

The Labour Party is not pro-leave and never has been.

Its leader was, though, for decades all the way up to last June. Feckin turncoat.

But if the parties are both for honouring the result of the referendum, even if through gritted teeth, and as the MPS almost unanimously were when they voted, they should all get on with it make the best of it rather than continuing the project fear in the hope that the process can somehow be stopped.

[Peter]

Its leader was, though, for decades all the way up to last June. Feckin turncoat.

But if the parties are both for honouring the result of the referendum, even if through gritted teeth, and as the MPS almost unanimously were when they voted, they should all get on with it make the best of it rather than continuing the project fear in the hope that the process can somehow be stopped.

They will....I think. The bigger test for Labour would be if they actually won an election. Corbyn would face tremendous pressure from his parliamentary party to consider a second referendum.

[Ash]

They will....I think. The bigger test for Labour would be if they actually won an election. Corbyn would face tremendous pressure from his parliamentary party to consider a second referendum.

He should pay more attention to their working class leave voters who will desert the party for ever if they are betrayed. And these are the same PLPers presumably who had been trying to knife JC since he won the leadership.

[AFC East]

June 2016: Leave wins referendum

June 2017: Public given chance to vote for pro-leave or pro-remain parties at General Election. Pro-leave parties win 84% of the vote share

August 2017: Opinion polls show 70% of people want UK to honour the referendum result, regardless of which way they voted

And yet absolute ****s like this STILL claim there's no mandate for leaving. Unbelievable. Just unbelievable.

https://audioboom.com/posts/6194680-...ogg-vs-chapman

Of course there is a mandate to leave, but not a mandate for much else. It was a spectacularly stupid question to ask, because only one of the answers gave a clear way forward.

[Ash]

Of course there is a mandate to leave, but not a mandate for much else. It was a spectacularly stupid question to ask, because only one of the answers gave a clear way forward.

The question wasn't stupid, and it was clear. Leave means leave.

God, I'm bored of repeating this.

[Luis Anaconda]

The question wasn't stupid, and it was clear. Leave means leave.

God, I'm bored of repeating this.

Should be forced to repeat it until it make some sense though, which it will never do. It doesn't - or does only as much as frankfurter means frankfurter. It is an absolutely ludicrous position to hold - leave should have meant something, people should have been given more to vote on than just a rejection of an idea. People essentially voted for a vacuum at the heart of our government and yet you still nonchalantly dismiss people who say this might have been bad idea as "Project Fear" - another utterly stupid concept. Anyway - enjoy the match, a. Chat Monday

[Peter]

Should be forced to repeat it until it make some sense though, which it will never do. It doesn't - or does only as much as frankfurter means frankfurter. It is an absolutely ludicrous position to hold - leave should have meant something, people should have been given more to vote on than just a rejection of an idea. People essentially voted for a vacuum at the heart of our government and yet you still nonchalantly dismiss people who say this might have been bad idea as "Project Fear" - another utterly stupid concept. Anyway - enjoy the match, a. Chat Monday

Means as much as 'brexit means brexit'

[Monty92]

Means as much as 'brexit means brexit'

"Brexit means Brexit" means exactly what every single key player in the leave campaign (not to mention Cameron, Osborne and many others on the remain side) stated it meant pre-referendum and what they continue to state it means today

The precise way in which we extricate ourselves from the EU institutions that we must leave for Brexit to mean Brexit was not on the ballot paper and neither you nor anyone else would seriously suggest it should have been.