June 2015: Parliament votes for EU referendum

[Monty92]

I am not making any argument against attempting anything. I just said that 'brexit means brexit' means nothing. Which is undeniably true.

It doesn't mean nothing. It means leaving the EU.

It has also been regularly qualified by the key Leave players, including May herself.

“Brexit does not mean partial membership of the European Union, associate membership of the European Union, or anything that leaves us half-in, half-out. We do not seek to adopt a model already enjoyed by other countries. We do not seek to hold on to bits of membership as we leave.

“The United Kingdom is leaving the European Union."

Theresa May, January 2017

[Peter]

It doesn't mean nothing. It means leaving the EU.

It has also been regularly qualified by the key Leave players, including May herself.

“Brexit does not mean partial membership of the European Union, associate membership of the European Union, or anything that leaves us half-in, half-out. We do not seek to adopt a model already enjoyed by other countries. We do not seek to hold on to bits of membership as we leave.

“The United Kingdom is leaving the European Union."

Theresa May, January 2017

No, it doesn’t mean leaving the EU. It means nothing. It’s a bull**** hashtag that it isn’t even a word and that literally doesn’t mean anything. You may think it represents leaving the EU, leaving the single market, ending freedom of movement etc…… but it doesn’t.

The quote you put below is better. This at least implies that those significant aspects of membership will simply be ended rather than amended. It still doesn’t say it but it does at least imply it. It is better, for example, than ‘leaving means leaving’ which would simply be another way of avoiding the question.

Quite frankly, the ‘it’s obvious’ angle is rather stupid. Nobody has ever witnessed a situation like this before- nothing is obvious, nothing can be taken as read, nothing is implicit. People quite rightly want to know what Brexit is going to look like and our idiot of a Prime Minister has spectacularly failed to address it.

[Pokster]

Can I just check, are you lot just copying and pasting what you all said about 1,2 and 3 months ago?

[Ash]

Can I just check, are you lot just copying and pasting what you all said about 1,2 and 3 months ago?

No, I re-composed my bits, and added some new content. It does all feel a bit deja-vu though, for the most part.

[Peter]

No, I re-composed my bits, and added some new content. It does all feel a bit deja-vu though, for the most part.

That's because you wont tell us what leaving looks like. We are left to leap around in the dark.

[Ash]

That's because you wont tell us what leaving looks like. We are left to leap around in the dark.

That is because your hat has fallen down over your eyes, my friend.

[Peter]

That is because your hat has fallen down over your eyes, my friend.

No, its because the political elite are buying time until they work out how to do what is best for them.

[Monty92]

No, it doesn’t mean leaving the EU. It means nothing. It’s a bull**** hashtag that it isn’t even a word and that literally doesn’t mean anything. You may think it represents leaving the EU, leaving the single market, ending freedom of movement etc…… but it doesn’t.

The quote you put below is better. This at least implies that those significant aspects of membership will simply be ended rather than amended. It still doesn’t say it but it does at least imply it. It is better, for example, than ‘leaving means leaving’ which would simply be another way of avoiding the question.

Quite frankly, the ‘it’s obvious’ angle is rather stupid. Nobody has ever witnessed a situation like this before- nothing is obvious, nothing can be taken as read, nothing is implicit. People quite rightly want to know what Brexit is going to look like and our idiot of a Prime Minister has spectacularly failed to address it.

Jesus Christ. I thought I was on the autistic spectrum...

I give up.

[Peter]

Jesus Christ. I thought I was on the autistic spectrum...

I give up.

I think you probably should.