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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    which is where you run into the difference between science and humanity. Science runs on laws, society runs (or should run) on perceptions of justice. Science gives you results but it does not distinguish between right and wrong in anything other than a factual outcome. It provides no moral context, indeed it is deliberately removed from it. (rather, it claims to be. In practice it isn't).
    Like the difference between a penalty shootout and an actual football match
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    But what happens when their strength in numbers is such that they can, say, force a Gay Pride event to be cancelled because it is culturally insensitive to those of the Muslim faith? What do the progressives do then?
    The progressives do nothing. They have already shown that when it comes to a choice between the risk of being called Islamophobic and compromising women's rights or gay rights, they'll do the latter every single time. Anything - ANYTHING - rather than be called racist.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    The progressives do nothing. They have already shown that when it comes to a choice between the risk of being called Islamophobic and compromising women's rights or gay rights, they'll do the latter every single time. Anything - ANYTHING - rather than be called racist.
    Which is how Europe actually opens a back door (not your mum's, this time) for Progressiveness in the UK; they don't mind being called racist there because .. concentration camps.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    It can also be a useful tool. Its fundamental weakness in terms of social guidance is that the process rests on answering a question- somebody has to ask the question.

    It also presents at least as many moral quandaries than it solves.

    And why the insults, M? Seems rather harsh....
    Also, somebody has to pay for it and it's easier to twist a corporation's arm that it is to persuade millions of free individuals exercising personal, private choices based on their own homespun common sense; word-of-mouth from their friends and family and neighbours perhaps.

    For instance, a veterinary physician's surgery will be festooned with ads for Pedigree Chum or whatever and I will be solemnly advised that it is the very best nutrition for my dogs. Not because the vet actually believes it, or even because it's true, but because Mars Incorporated pay him to say it. They contribute billions to their education, training and facilities and R & D in their field. They have been comprehensively bought by the Man.

    But then, so has everybody else; we're all culpable
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    Also, somebody has to pay for it and it's easier to twist a corporation's arm that it is to persuade millions of free individuals exercising personal, private choices based on their own homespun common sense; word-of-mouth from their friends and family and neighbours perhaps.

    For instance, a veterinary physician's surgery will be festooned with ads for Pedigree Chum or whatever and I will be solemnly advised that it is the very best nutrition for my dogs. Not because the vet actually believes it, or even because it's true, but because Mars Incorporated pay him to say it. They contribute billions to their education, training and facilities and R & D in their field. They have been comprehensively bought by the Man.

    But then, so has everybody else; we're all culpable
    What's wrong with Pedigree Chum then?

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    What's wrong with Pedigree Chum then?
    Nothing. Just like there's nothing wrong with McDonald's.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    Nothing. Just like there's nothing wrong with McDonald's.
    Is it like baby formula whereby the better known (and therefore more expensive) brands that claim to be the best are 100% the same as the cheaper ones?

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    Nothing. Just like there's nothing wrong with McDonald's.
    Right. What do you feed your hounds, then? Apart from unwary intruders, I mean.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Right. What do you feed your hounds, then? Apart from unwary intruders, I mean.
    BARF, an acronym for Bones And Raw Flesh. Plus, as you suggest, whatever else they fancy.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Right. What do you feed your hounds, then? Apart from unwary intruders, I mean.
    And his breakfast, when he's not looking.

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