Is the Tory party actually on a mission to alienate every single voter in the country

[Sir C]

What is all this choose your own gender nonsense? Have they gone fúcking insane?

There doesn't appear to be a viable, electable party for whom one might vote with a degree of confidence. Quite how we have come to such a pass is mysterious. But it's disturbing.

[Monty92]

What is all this choose your own gender nonsense? Have they gone fúcking insane?

There doesn't appear to be a viable, electable party for whom one might vote with a degree of confidence. Quite how we have come to such a pass is mysterious. But it's disturbing.

But politics exists downstream from culture. This is a policy driven by our new culture.

Saying that, I do think this particular policy could be the tipping point we've been waiting for.

[Burney]

But politics exists downstream from culture. This is a policy driven by our new culture.

Saying that, I do think this particular policy could be the tipping point we've been waiting for.

What bothers me is the idea that they're going to promote 'transgender rights'. Transgenders already have rights - same as everyone else. What this fatuous tart Greening appears to be suggesting is of an actual government legislating to protect the delusions of a tiny number of mad people from the cold light of reality.

[Sir C]

But politics exists downstream from culture. This is a policy driven by our new culture.

Saying that, I do think this particular policy could be the tipping point we've been waiting for.

My glw, who has the misfortune of working amongst ordinary people - including, I suppose, so-called millenials, tells me that all these transers, radical feminists and Muslim apologists exist only on the pages of The Guardian, that I take too much notice of them, and that the people in her office, on the train and in restaurants and cafés are still sane.

You're calling my glw a liar.

[Monty92]

My glw, who has the misfortune of working amongst ordinary people - including, I suppose, so-called millenials, tells me that all these transers, radical feminists and Muslim apologists exist only on the pages of The Guardian, that I take too much notice of them, and that the people in her office, on the train and in restaurants and cafés are still sane.

You're calling my glw a liar.

I think she's right to a point, except that her assessment of your every day person being sane is not quite the full story. They are sane, but they are influenced by our culture through osmososis and reflexively support what they are told is 'progressive' while not really questioning it. They are also permanently told that we must accept other people's life experiences as to not do so is intolerant and arrogant. Of course, this sounds reasonable until 'acceptance' becomes something far beyond basic good manners and tactfulness.

In other words, they are useful idiots, and their tepid, apathetic endorsement serves to validate the entire movement.

[Sir C]

I think she's right to a point, except that her assessment of your every day person being sane is not quite the full story. They are sane, but they are influenced by our culture through osmososis and reflexively support what they are told is 'progressive' while not really questioning it. They are also permanently told that we must accept other people's life experiences as to not do so is intolerant and arrogant. Of course, this sounds reasonable until 'acceptance' becomes something far beyond basic good manners and tactfulness.

In other words, they are useful idiots, and their tepid, apathetic endorsement serves to validate the entire movement.

I suppose you socialise with these people, do you? Do they talk specious bóllocks as a matter of course?

[Monty92]

I suppose you socialise with these people, do you? Do they talk specious bóllocks as a matter of course?

The worst thing that could ever happen to these people is for them to find themselves tainted by association with the right. And so they will fight their corner right until the point that they no longer can. So, for example, you won't get many 'sane' people who would defend Rachel Dolezal's right to self-identify as black, or for a 57-year-old man to self-identity as a baby and sit around in nappies all day.

Which is why this latest move by the Tories gives me hope. I don't think sane people can support it while keeping a straight face. And once the radicals lose the support of the mainstream, their game is up.

[Burney]

I suppose you socialise with these people, do you? Do they talk specious bóllocks as a matter of course?

Monty works in the media and lives in North London. Of course he socialises with these people. I suspect he spends a lot of time biting his lip so as not to be cut dead in the local vegetarian cafe.

[Peter]

I think she's right to a point, except that her assessment of your every day person being sane is not quite the full story. They are sane, but they are influenced by our culture through osmososis and reflexively support what they are told is 'progressive' while not really questioning it. They are also permanently told that we must accept other people's life experiences as to not do so is intolerant and arrogant. Of course, this sounds reasonable until 'acceptance' becomes something far beyond basic good manners and tactfulness.

In other words, they are useful idiots, and their tepid, apathetic endorsement serves to validate the entire movement.

Surely we can accept other people's life experiences without endless legislation and discussion about how they need to be treated.

I believe in my own right to not give a **** about other people's life experience. I don't care about your gender, sexual orientation, preferred title, preferred toilet. Indifference is not intolerance.

My foot hurts most days. People just don't understand how it feels. I feel isolated from my community and have nobody to turn to.

[Ash]

My foot hurts most days. People just don't understand how it feels. I feel isolated from my community and have nobody to turn to.

I sometimes have hurty-foot syndrome too, Peter. I feel your pain. Well, my pain tbh, but I can empathise.