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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    I'm always mystified by this assertion that people who voted Leave didn't know what Leave meant. It's always said as if to suggest Remain voters knew exactly what Remain meant - when they knew no such thing.
    Most Remain voters feared change and on the whole preferred the status quo. In fact, they'd have got a reinvigorated EU glorying in their endorsement and treating it as a mandate to drive through ever closer Union and the gradual drift of more and more powers to Brussels. That is not what most Remain voters wanted, but that's what they'd have got.
    They also would have seen the question of a referendum on membership kicked into the long grass for another generation, with the matter being seen as settled. We had one chance to stop that happening and thankfully, we took it.
    It's disingenuous to suggest that there were as many unknowns with Remain as there were and are with Leave.

    There are far more unknowns with Leave, hence the panic amongst Leave voters about what a soft Brexit might really be.

  2. #62
    And this is nonsense, Burney. You have no idea at all whether anything like this would have happened.

    'In fact, they'd have got a reinvigorated EU glorying in their endorsement and treating it as a mandate to drive through ever closer Union and the gradual drift of more and more powers to Brussels. That is not what most Remain voters wanted, but that's what they'd have got. '

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by World's End Stella View Post
    And this is nonsense, Burney. You have no idea at all whether anything like this would have happened.

    'In fact, they'd have got a reinvigorated EU glorying in their endorsement and treating it as a mandate to drive through ever closer Union and the gradual drift of more and more powers to Brussels. That is not what most Remain voters wanted, but that's what they'd have got. '
    No, he's quite right, imo. We know their sort, and we know what they're like. With the eurotrash it's always the same; they don't like us and we don't trust them.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

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