Oh, I wouldn't have any idea what became of her exactly, but it fits alright; you say yourself that each side's behaviour and attitude is as bad as the other. "Tiring", you said. Thing is, we don't mind demonisation when it happens to those we don't like anyway, do we. So that has become the normal way to engage with alternative views and opinions. See Also: AKB v WOB; in a way, saying that electing Theresa May is the end of the world is from the same thought process as saying no manager can replace Arsene Wenger. Or if you don't agree with me, you're worse than Hitler. "Rigid and intolerant" makes sense then, doesn't it, because who wants to be (or even be seen to be) tolerant of Hitler.Originally Posted by Ash
I was speaking of the "self-appointed aristocracy.. controlled by a tiny metropolitan-based media/pop cultural Brahmin caste who effectively see themselves as being the arbiters of all that is or isn't acceptable," as B put it. That sounds extremely familiar from those days.
Now just imagine that sort and their "hangers-on and lickspittles .. of similar outlook and location, but lesser status, who seek reflected glory by mindlessly parroting their views," transposed from fashion etc. to politics, as well, and other areas of apparently serious adult life, like football. Perhaps you'll even recall a Spitting Image skit mocking the youth television programming of the time, Janet Street-Porter and a' that, which featured celebrities going in and out of fashion every few seconds.
Politically, there's no Margaret Thatcher anymore, of course, but Donald Trump, say, will do just as well as a bogeyman. The antis simply never grew up, they didn't have to. We don't need values anymore, we have Facebook statuses and pinned tweets instead.
I was there, on the fringes of the fringes, as you say. Being from the sticks, I was taken by the urban, edgy, sophistication of the thing and I'd say it was actually the Arsenal that got me away from it all, helped me keep everything real. Certainly the Arsenal and the punk scene. Hard to imagine now, isn't it
"Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.
"But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."
For ****'s sake, can we stop beating about the bush here. Corbyn is not being targeted for sympathising with terrorists, he is being targeted for sympathising with the wrong side.
See the Conservative and UNIONIST Party for further information.
Isn't the whole point of politics, in layman's terms, that both sides are wrong?
"Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.
"But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."
Not when it comes to terrorism. You have to pick a side.
Not in my experience. We happily create terrorists just as cheerily as we catch and kill them. Makes no difference to us, so long as we get paid.
"Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.
"But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."
A lot of interesting points there. Will get back to you on them in future.Oh, I wouldn't have any idea what became of her exactly, but it fits alright; you say yourself that each side's behaviour and attitude is as bad as the other. "Tiring", you said. Thing is, we don't mind demonisation when it happens to those we don't like anyway, do we. So that has become the normal way to engage with alternative views and opinions. See Also: AKB v WOB; in a way, saying that electing Theresa May is the end of the world is from the same thought process as saying no manager can replace Arsene Wenger. Or if you don't agree with me, you're worse than Hitler. "Rigid and intolerant" makes sense then, doesn't it, because who wants to be (or even be seen to be) tolerant of Hitler.
I was speaking of the "self-appointed aristocracy.. controlled by a tiny metropolitan-based media/pop cultural Brahmin caste who effectively see themselves as being the arbiters of all that is or isn't acceptable," as B put it. That sounds extremely familiar from those days.
Now just imagine that sort and their "hangers-on and lickspittles .. of similar outlook and location, but lesser status, who seek reflected glory by mindlessly parroting their views," transposed from fashion etc. to politics, as well, and other areas of apparently serious adult life, like football. Perhaps you'll even recall a Spitting Image skit mocking the youth television programming of the time, Janet Street-Porter and a' that, which featured celebrities going in and out of fashion every few seconds.
Politically, there's no Margaret Thatcher anymore, of course, but Donald Trump, say, will do just as well as a bogeyman. The antis simply never grew up, they didn't have to. We don't need values anymore, we have Facebook statuses and pinned tweets instead.
I was there, on the fringes of the fringes, as you say. Being from the sticks, I was taken by the urban, edgy, sophistication of the thing and I'd say it was actually the Arsenal that got me away from it all, helped me keep everything real. Certainly the Arsenal and the punk scene. Hard to imagine now, isn't it
For now, on demonisation, I admit that I would quite like to see John McCain possessing that specific status in the minds of the western voter. Not much chance of that with the majority of the MSM pushing his agenda. Hence my position. I'm sure The Donald wouldn't mind either. It would make his stated intention (which he shares with that other demon, Jeremy Corbyn) of "getting along with Russia" a lot easier.
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