Open-topped bus parade on the 28th :cloud9:

[Pokster]

Well that's Gustavo's view and he's entitled to hold it. I rather disagree.

Staying up being like a trophy is what clubs like Sunderland think. We - however - are the Arsenal.

Seems strange then that Liverpool and Man City are both celbrating every victory like it is a cup final.. almost as if they think being in the CL is bloody important

[redgunamo]

Seems strange then that Liverpool and Man City are both celbrating every victory like it is a cup final.. almost as if they think being in the CL is bloody important

Both those clubs have reason to be more sanguine about their future in that competition, should they qualify, than we do though. The European Cup has been most kind to Liverpool down the years and Manchester City are now armed with the "best manager in the world" who in turn will be armed with all the money in the world and perhaps also Lionel Messi too. Neither outfit will be looking at the thing as merely a money-making jaunt or as a prelude to a tonking from Bayern München in the knockout rounds.