A £70,000 salary defines you as rich?

[Sir C]

Are you confusing material wealth and perceived social status with the intangible matters of life where one can truly say to be “rich”?

Happiness, health, inner peace.

You may profess in public to have loads of money and live the life of a bon viveur but given you have this week unfortunately suffered a mini-stroke (TIA, remember this) you are indeed far from rich.

I profess no such thing, sw. I live a simple life but value the essential small pleasures which seperate us from the beasts, that is all.

[Pat Vegas]

Only if there's children. It makes no difference either way otherwise.

nah I could spend that rent/mortgage money on guitars.

[Luis Anaconda]

If you ever accidentally put on channel 5 there is bound to be a benefits programme on.

They all smoke.

That would be pornographer and tax avoider Richard Desmond's Channel 5 would it?

[Sir C]

That would be pornographer and tax avoider Richard Desmond's Channel 5 would it?

And may I enquire what is wrong with pornographing and tax avoiding, la?

[redgunamo]

nah I could spend that rent/mortgage money on guitars.

There you are then; it makes no difference.

[Luis Anaconda]

And may I enquire what is wrong with pornographing and tax avoiding, la?

I made no judgement, merely a description of what he is.

His porn is rubbish though

[Pat Vegas]

I made no judgement, merely a description of what he is.

His porn is rubbish though

I remember when Channel 5 used to show those terrible movies late at night.
It usually had the same woman in them with a rubbish story.

Titles like Executive briefs.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

What utter tosh. £70,000 equates to around £4,000 per month, net. Call it £1,000 per week.

Now let's subtract essentials: Cigarettes and booze, £210 per week. Food, £200 per week.

So we're left with £590 per week to pay for motoring expenses, eating out, holidays and staff?

Fúck off. Impossible.

Obviously you can live reasonably comfortably on £70k (assuming you don't have a mortgage, naturally) but 'rich'? Absolute nonsense.

Shows how out of touch with ordinary people the left is.

You'd get taxed 55% on that over here

[Sir C]

You'd get taxed 55% on that over here

Someone's got to pay for all that free childcare, b.

[SWv2]

I profess no such thing, sw. I live a simple life but value the essential small pleasures which seperate us from the beasts, that is all.

Out of curiosity who was it that decided this arbitrary figure of £70k??

It does not seem a lot to me as you have correctly pointed out a few normal outgoings would eat into that quite considerably.

Moving away from the cut and thrust of debate regarding the concepts of rich v wealth, I personally would define being wealthy as being able to live the life one wanted to the very full, and at 70k I am not sure that would always be the case.

I suspect the figure was the output of some scientist of analyst **** with a massively large head, a chap (or female, who knows) who once they stepped out of the safe environs of their office or lab would struggle to find their own arse using both hands.