Whilst it seemed all doom and gloom a quick look at the league table

[Rich]

I looked at it the other day and thought the opposite. Didn't realise we were 5 points behind Liverpool. Rather have the points on the board at this stage. Having said that i'm close to being past the point of caring. It seems more and more likely he'll be manager next year and i can't be bothered with it anymore.

This. It's just so dull with Wenger in charge. I am bored of 4th place. We can't compete for the best players so I'm just going to wait until the manager changes until I get excited again.

The thought of beating Spurs in the FA Cup final excites me a great deal, though.

Fortunately I have AFCB to support as well. One thing you cannot accuse them of is being predictable.

[Luis Anaconda]

This. It's just so dull with Wenger in charge. I am bored of 4th place. We can't compete for the best players so I'm just going to wait until the manager changes until I get excited again.

The thought of beating Spurs in the FA Cup final excites me a great deal, though.

Fortunately I have AFCB to support as well. One thing you cannot accuse them of is being predictable.

Just for the record - we have finished fourth 3 times in the last seven season. You are bored of finishing in a place we finish in less than 50 per cent of the time

[Ash]

Just for the record - we have finished fourth 3 times in the last seven season. You are bored of finishing in a place we finish in less than 50 per cent of the time

I believe that 'fourth' is Arsenalfanese for 'second, third or fourth'.

[Rich]

I believe that 'fourth' is Arsenalfanese for 'second, third or fourth'.

You are, of course, quite correct. 2nd/3rd/4th really all feel the same when it's what happens every single year.

[Luis Anaconda]

I believe that 'fourth' is Arsenalfanese for 'second, third or fourth'.

Oh - I know that, but I am a stickler for accuracy

[Sir C]

Just for the record - we have finished fourth 3 times in the last seven season. You are bored of finishing in a place we finish in less than 50 per cent of the time

"I'm bored with my football team because we don't win the league."

And they say our supporters are spoilt, entitled brats!

[Rich]

"I'm bored with my football team because we don't win the league."

And they say our supporters are spoilt, entitled brats!

It's not that, I wouldn't mind if we fought until the bitter end. But we're so mentally feeble that we give up half way through the season and then surge back to 3rd when the pressure is off. And then we're supposed to celebrate that as a victory? Fair enough if it was a one off and we usually finished 6th. But it's the same every year and we make no effort to improve on it.

[Luis Anaconda]

It's not that, I wouldn't mind if we fought until the bitter end. But we're so mentally feeble that we give up half way through the season and then surge back to 3rd when the pressure is off. And then we're supposed to celebrate that as a victory? Fair enough if it was a one off and we usually finished 6th. But it's the same every year and we make no effort to improve on it.

Three of our biggest signings of all time came last summer. The other two are our 2 world-class players - that is is some effort surely

(though I do appreciate where you are coming from on this)

[Peter]

Three of our biggest signings of all time came last summer. The other two are our 2 world-class players - that is is some effort surely

(though I do appreciate where you are coming from on this)

Its true. We cant even blame the money anymore.

It must be Ramsey's fault.

[Luis Anaconda]

Its true. We cant even blame the money anymore.

It must be Ramsey's fault.

I blame Almunia