Is there a realistic possibility that our squad is actually ****?

[7sisters]

It seems pretty fair to say the old ******* has been found wanting in his purchase of world class defenders over the years, bar a couple of exceptions but there seems a surplus of good players elsewhere in the squard.
He places very little importance upon the captaincy, as demonstrated buy his peculiar choices of Per and Arteta; who both went on to play a mere handful of games following their appointments.
Lack of leadership and heads dropping when going behind to more stiff opponents comes up time and again. Either way, we've been pretty poor for too long in the bigger fixtures. Wenger's stuck in a rut and seems clueless in terms of being to be able to make that quantum leap between being a good side to becoming a great one.

[Peter]

It seems pretty fair to say the old ******* has been found wanting in his purchase of world class defenders over the years, bar a couple of exceptions but there seems a surplus of good players elsewhere in the squard.
He places very little importance upon the captaincy, as demonstrated buy his peculiar choices of Per and Arteta; who both went on to play a mere handful of games following their appointments.
Lack of leadership and heads dropping when going behind to more stiff opponents comes up time and again. Either way, we've been pretty poor for too long in the bigger fixtures. Wenger's stuck in a rut and seems clueless in terms of being to be able to make that quantum leap between being a good side to becoming a great one.

Right, but the question was more about the quality in the squad. THat was more a general anti wenger rant.

Also, I would argue that our current options at centre back are as good as they have been since Adams, Keown and big Sol were around. If we lack world class defenders its because they are incredibly difficult to find. In Koscielny we certainly have one.

[Pat Vegas]

Right, but the question was more about the quality in the squad. THat was more a general anti wenger rant.

Also, I would argue that our current options at centre back are as good as they have been since Adams, Keown and big Sol were around. If we lack world class defenders its because they are incredibly difficult to find. In Koscielny we certainly have one.

Do you think a strong captain would put up with Sanchez's arm waving tantrums?
I think they would. And I think another manager would try to stop them doing this.

[Peter]

Do you think a strong captain would put up with Sanchez's arm waving tantrums?
I think they would. And I think another manager would try to stop them doing this.

I don't see that as a big issue. The guy works his *******s off and has a go at people. Good! I wish they were all doing it.

I hated at least 3 of the guys I used to play football with but I still dreaded the weeks where one or more of them weren't available.

You need a few ****s.

[Sir C]

I don't see that as a big issue. The guy works his *******s off and has a go at people. Good! I wish they were all doing it.

I hated at least 3 of the guys I used to play football with but I still dreaded the weeks where one or more of them weren't available.

You need a few ****s.

What does all the arm-waving nonsense mean, though? If the manager wanted the whole team to press high up the pitch, and they didn't, then he should be sorting that out, not Sanchez. If a high press isn't the manager's decision, why is Sanchez trying to force his team-mates to join him? It's not up to him to decide the tactics.

[Pat Vegas]

What does all the arm-waving nonsense mean, though? If the manager wanted the whole team to press high up the pitch, and they didn't, then he should be sorting that out, not Sanchez. If a high press isn't the manager's decision, why is Sanchez trying to force his team-mates to join him? It's not up to him to decide the tactics.

My mum was right. Sanchez is the problem. He's unsettled the whole team as it's all about him.

Could be true.

[Ash]

My mum was right. Sanchez is the problem. He's unsettled the whole team as it's all about him.

Could be true.

Interesting theory. He does appear to be a diva. Highly talented, desirable and produductive, but 'difficult to work with'* when it's all about him.

The other scenario being that he's the only one who can be bothered and he's entitled to be annoyed at the others.

Diva imo.

*Insufferable egotistist.

[Peter]

What does all the arm-waving nonsense mean, though? If the manager wanted the whole team to press high up the pitch, and they didn't, then he should be sorting that out, not Sanchez. If a high press isn't the manager's decision, why is Sanchez trying to force his team-mates to join him? It's not up to him to decide the tactics.

I think the intention is to do a half-arsed press. Technically they are supposed to be doing it but they all secretly know they don't really have to unless we are playing Spurs.

Sanchez takes it literally. Or he is just being a **** and doesn't listen.

**** knows.

[7sisters]

Right, but the question was more about the quality in the squad. THat was more a general anti wenger rant.

Also, I would argue that our current options at centre back are as good as they have been since Adams, Keown and big Sol were around. If we lack world class defenders its because they are incredibly difficult to find. In Koscielny we certainly have one.

Yes.. I'd agree with that but it's clear we have no credible third option at the back if either of those get taken out. I think the squads overall very strong, we've missed Santi puling the strings in midfield but there's very little to complain about in terms of depth and ability.
You only have to look at Chelsea under Maureen last season and Conte this to see the impact of fresh thinking and a change of direction. I'm sure it's not all down to Kante and three at the back.

[Peter]

Yes.. I'd agree with that but it's clear we have no credible third option at the back if either of those get taken out. I think the squads overall very strong, we've missed Santi puling the strings in midfield but there's very little to complain about in terms of depth and ability.
You only have to look at Chelsea under Maureen last season and Conte this to see the impact of fresh thinking and a change of direction. I'm sure it's not all down to Kante and three at the back.

As below, I disagree. I think a fit Per is a reliable option and Holding looks good. Nobody has cover at centre back of comparable quality to Koscielny and Mustafi.

Chelsea are not a great example. You have to remember they were excellent the season before until Mourinho pissed everyone off. I don't think their recovery is a miracle cure, just a well managed return to efficiency and form.