As I said the other day, the good thing about being 2nd in the group

[Ash]

There shall be an initial early onslaught, bouyed a little by a noisy crowd, of this I am sure. I expect Bayern will however be too clever to succumb to this most basic of tactic.

I simply hope in our energetic desire to get back into the game we don't get caught and go 1 down as despite the undoubted noisy Germans I expect there will be much dissenting and booing etc.

Yes, we probably won't hear the boos and grumbles because of that fùcking drum and two thousand perfectly co-ordinated Germans marching in step for 90 minutes. I can't believe they let that fùcking drum in. Actually, I can.

Though, to contradict what I said earlier, when we got the 2-0 out there and had them a bit worried at the end, the consensus was "well, Bayern had their foot off the gas. They knew they had won so had no intensity and let Arsenal back into the tie". Mr Souness in particular was very clear about this. I will have to pretend there is hope, however tiny and absurd, that a geniune giant of European football could lose 4-0 to a weaker team.

[Herbette Chapman - aged 15]

Ash please. I am really rather fond of you and the last thing I want is to start feeling pity for you

[SWv2]

Yes, we probably won't hear the boos and grumbles because of that fùcking drum and two thousand perfectly co-ordinated Germans marching in step for 90 minutes. I can't believe they let that fùcking drum in. Actually, I can.

Though, to contradict what I said earlier, when we got the 2-0 out there and had them a bit worried at the end, the consensus was "well, Bayern had their foot off the gas. They knew they had won so had no intensity and let Arsenal back into the tie". Mr Souness in particular was very clear about this. I will have to pretend there is hope, however tiny and absurd, that a geniune giant of European football could lose 4-0 to a weaker team.

Never been done before, I know this from this week's coverage of PSG/Barcelona and then of course our own defeat.

You and I both know with 100% certainty that Bayern will score so we will need to score 5 to their 1 in order to even get it to extra-time. I am not sure this will happen.

However if we do then they also have the added advantage of being able to surpass our 1 away goal thus rendering our task more difficult.

Finally, to not overlook how inferior we are to them both footballistically and in respect of the great intangible mental strength. Yes, that gem.

[redgunamo]

Never been done before, I know this from this week's coverage of PSG/Barcelona and then of course our own defeat.

You and I both know with 100% certainty that Bayern will score so we will need to score 5 to their 1 in order to even get it to extra-time. I am not sure this will happen.

However if we do then they also have the added advantage of being able to surpass our 1 away goal thus rendering our task more difficult.

Finally, to not overlook how inferior we are to them both footballistically and in respect of the great intangible mental strength. Yes, that gem.

In a word, Lewandowski.

[Luis Anaconda]

Never been done before, I know this from this week's coverage of PSG/Barcelona and then of course our own defeat.

You and I both know with 100% certainty that Bayern will score so we will need to score 5 to their 1 in order to even get it to extra-time. I am not sure this will happen.

However if we do then they also have the added advantage of being able to surpass our 1 away goal thus rendering our task more difficult.

Finally, to not overlook how inferior we are to them both footballistically and in respect of the great intangible mental strength. Yes, that gem.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...ampionsleague1

[Luis Anaconda]

https://www.theguardian.com/football...ampionsleague1

Of course Deportivo didn't need the fourth but still - also worth looking who the manager of Milan was that night

[SWv2]

https://www.theguardian.com/football...ampionsleague1

As admirable a feat as it was they were only trailing by 3.

Probably the finest away performance I saw at Highbury in the CL also.

[Luis Anaconda]

As admirable a feat as it was they were only trailing by 3.

Probably the finest away performance I saw at Highbury in the CL also.

As i pointed out yes, they didn't need the fourth - it was probably better placed in after Ash's post where he said:

"I will have to pretend there is hope, however tiny and absurd, that a geniune giant of European football could lose 4-0 to a weaker team."
This is definitely an example of that - The AC Milan team several all-time greats, Maldini, Nesta, Seedorf, Cafu. The Deportivo team was good but weaker than AC
I was trying to give him hope, sw. Would you deprive him of that?

[Peter]

As i pointed out yes, they didn't need the fourth - it was probably better placed in after Ash's post where he said:

"I will have to pretend there is hope, however tiny and absurd, that a geniune giant of European football could lose 4-0 to a weaker team."
This is definitely an example of that - The AC Milan team several all-time greats, Maldini, Nesta, Seedorf, Cafu. The Deportivo team was good but weaker than AC
I was trying to give him hope, sw. Would you deprive him of that?

I would hope we will at least go at them a bit. That official tweet was a bit ****ing classless wasn't it?

I pay very little attention to them as a club but I noted they were being quite united-like at the notion of a legitimate penalty being given against them and seemed determined to try and get people booked or sent off for a spell after that.

I don't like them.

[Sir C]

I would hope we will at least go at them a bit. That official tweet was a bit ****ing classless wasn't it?

I pay very little attention to them as a club but I noted they were being quite united-like at the notion of a legitimate penalty being given against them and seemed determined to try and get people booked or sent off for a spell after that.

I don't like them.

The time to go at them was on Wednesday. This game should be an opportunity for a gentle stroll around, retaining energy for the challenges to come.

A little word with Bayern off the record should see a comfortable 0-0.