Anyway, what do I know? I watched Roots last night instead.

[Sir C]

Let me know when they achieve an African Las Vegas. Or even a Luton.

Well clearly there's a ways to go yet. But what I mean is that it's heartening to see a guy trying to sell shoelaces on the street rather than sitting staring blankly into the middle distance.

[Burney]

He's almost gone the full Big Fat Ron there, Clive.

It is funny, isn't it, though. If you or I said what r has, we'd get fücking crucified.

[Monty92]

It is funny, isn't it, though. If you or I said what r has, we'd get fücking crucified.

Not the whole story. You'd get crucified by white liberals, but Red would equally get crucified by black liberals.

[Burney]

Not the whole story. You'd get crucified by white liberals, but Red would equally get crucified by black liberals.

Well he'd get criticised, of course, but - and this is crucial - they wouldn't be able to hurl the catch-all accusation of racism at him.

[redgunamo]

Well he'd get criticised, of course, but - and this is crucial - they wouldn't be able to hurl the catch-all accusation of racism at him.

Jorge used to

[Burney]

Jorge used to

Yes, but j is a saint among men who has never been racist about anyone except the English and Americans. We're all racist in his eyes.

Surely the best you can hope for is to be a self-hating black man?

[redgunamo]

This sounds like an excuse you use for not doing housework, mate.

I don't need an excuse; I married a German.

[Pat Vegas]

There was that great joke in the 80s. "I'm not saying my mate's racist but he recorded Roots and watched it backwards so it had a happy ending."

FFS :reversespoilers:

[redgunamo]

Yes, but j is a saint among men who has never been racist about anyone except the English and Americans. We're all racist in his eyes.

Surely the best you can hope for is to be a self-hating black man?

I've no idea what that means. Just not our (the redgunamos', I mean) sort, I suspect.

[redgunamo]

Well clearly there's a ways to go yet. But what I mean is that it's heartening to see a guy trying to sell shoelaces on the street rather than sitting staring blankly into the middle distance.

Judge them in May, do you mean? Right.