There are arguments both ways as to whether Bellerin was fouled, however one thing is

[World's End Stella]

clear, anyone that says something like 'he needed to be stronger there' is an utter c*nt of the highest order who clearly needs a new hobby.

Hector did nothing wrong. Credit to Chelsea for the movement off the ball that created the situation where Bellerin had to mark Costa and Theo needs a slap for not bothering to track Alonso, but Hector did all that he could.

Not sure who the muppet on Radio 5 was that said that, Danny Mill maybe. Scum that he is.

[Sir C]

clear, anyone that says something like 'he needed to be stronger there' is an utter c*nt of the highest order who clearly needs a new hobby.

Hector did nothing wrong. Credit to Chelsea for the movement off the ball that created the situation where Bellerin had to mark Costa and Theo needs a slap for not bothering to track Alonso, but Hector did all that he could.

Not sure who the muppet on Radio 5 was that said that, Danny Mill maybe. Scum that he is.

Well, you say that there are arguments both ways, but to be honest I'd be interested in reading the argument that a forearm smash is a legal manouevre on a football pitch at any time. WWE, maybe. Football, not so much.

[Pat Vegas]

Well, you say that there are arguments both ways, but to be honest I'd be interested in reading the argument that a forearm smash is a legal manouevre on a football pitch at any time. WWE, maybe. Football, not so much.

It would have been better if he did hit him WWE style.

[PSRB]

Well, you say that there are arguments both ways, but to be honest I'd be interested in reading the argument that a forearm smash is a legal manouevre on a football pitch at any time. WWE, maybe. Football, not so much.

Totally, Llorente got booked for less against City.

Also, how the hell did Mata not get a red for his shocking tackle? Xhaka would have been deported if he'd done it. That's 3x stick on red cards they've got away with this season

[World's End Stella]

Totally, Llorente got booked for less against City.

Also, how the hell did Mata not get a red for his shocking tackle? Xhaka would have been deported if he'd done it. That's 3x stick on red cards they've got away woth this season

Mourinho's endless moaning is beginning to take effect, just as it did with Ferguson.

[Dorset Gooner]

Totally, Llorente got booked for less against City.

Also, how the hell did Mata not get a red for his shocking tackle? Xhaka would have been deported if he'd done it. That's 3x stick on red cards they've got away with this season

As Mourinho says there are different rules for them! Also add to the mix that sending an Arsenal player off is easier form a media backlash point of view & there you have it.

[World's End Stella]

Well, you say that there are arguments both ways, but to be honest I'd be interested in reading the argument that a forearm smash is a legal manouevre on a football pitch at any time. WWE, maybe. Football, not so much.

I'm not so sure - Alonso looked only at the ball and his arms weren't in an unusual position for someone that was jumping for the ball.

If we had a goal disallowed for that I'd be pretty irritated.

[Pokster]

I'm not so sure - Alonso looked only at the ball and his arms weren't in an unusual position for someone that was jumping for the ball.

If we had a goal disallowed for that I'd be pretty irritated.

If you hit the other player with your arm/elbow before you hit the ball with your head it's a foul....

[SWv2]

If you hit the other player with your arm/elbow before you hit the ball with your head it's a foul....

Was it before?


I have no issue with the goal for the record.

A very unfortunate (for Hector) coming together but I cannot see how the Chelsea player jumps in any other way. I have seen terms such as forearm smash and flailing arms but not for me.

Footballers will collide, it is unavoidable. The perception of dangerous cannot be given based on the outcome or injury but the action and Alonso was 100% right to go for the ball, his jump was such was not careless nor dangerous. Would people expect Gary Cahill to be carded when his action smashed Ryan Mason’s skull two weeks ago in what was a much serious (accidental) collision.

The one issue I do recognise and as touched upon by PRSB is the inconsistency of judgement where I watched the City game yesterday and saw Llorente get carded for such an act, though Mike Dean was at pains to point out the card was in fact for his third offence, the totting up logic.

[Pokster]

Was it before?


I have no issue with the goal for the record.

A very unfortunate (for Hector) coming together but I cannot see how the Chelsea player jumps in any other way. I have seen terms such as forearm smash and flailing arms but not for me.

Footballers will collide, it is unavoidable. The perception of dangerous cannot be given based on the outcome or injury but the action and Alonso was 100% right to go for the ball, his jump was such was not careless nor dangerous. Would people expect Gary Cahill to be carded when his action smashed Ryan Mason’s skull two weeks ago in what was a much serious (accidental) collision.

The one issue I do recognise and as touched upon by PRSB is the inconsistency of judgement where I watched the City game yesterday and saw Llorente get carded for such an act, though Mike Dean was at pains to point out the card was in fact for his third offence, the totting up logic.

Yes, it certainly was before... which is why it is a foul imo