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    Those controversial Turf Moor handball decisions in full.

    Not the goal. We know that wasn't deliberate so the ref made the correct decision.

    Were any of these deliberate?

    The one that bounces of Keane's hand for a corner.
    https://gfycat.com/AdmirableZigzagIbizanhound

    The one Keane seems to pat down from Walcott.
    https://gfycat.com/TemptingGlitteringLark
    Last edited by Ash; 10-04-2016 at 03:43 PM.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Not the goal. We know that wasn't deliberate so the ref made the correct decision.

    https://gfycat.com/AdmirableZigzagIbizanhound

    https://gfycat.com/TemptingGlitteringLark
    First won - never in a million years
    Second won - wtf??

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurly View Post
    Second won - wtf??
    If the lad had had Big Pat's hands he would have caught it.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Not the goal. We know that wasn't deliberate so the ref made the correct decision.

    Were any of these deliberate?

    The one that bounces of Keane's hand for a corner.
    https://gfycat.com/AdmirableZigzagIbizanhound

    The one Keane seems to pat down from Walcott.
    https://gfycat.com/TemptingGlitteringLark
    I think we were fortunate.
    If it had happened down the other end of the pitch we'd have been going bonkers.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Vegas View Post
    I think we were fortunate.
    If it had happened down the other end of the pitch we'd have been going bonkers.
    Disagree.The second one I would have been asking about our defender's rank stupidity

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Vegas View Post
    I think we were fortunate.
    If it had happened down the other end of the pitch we'd have been going bonkers.
    Oh yes, we were very fortunate that the ref applied the laws of the game for our goal. Whether that should be the law is another matter. Morally, the goal shouldn't have stood because Ox ****ed it up by kicking Kos's foot so that the ball is going out of the stadium until it hits Kos's hand. There should be something about gaining an advantage in there, to balance the intent bit and to go with the unnatural position bit.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Oh yes, we were very fortunate that the ref applied the laws of the game for our goal. Whether that should be the law is another matter. Morally, the goal shouldn't have stood because Ox ****ed it up by kicking Kos's foot so that the ball is going out of the stadium until it hits Kos's hand. There should be something about gaining an advantage in there, to balance the intent bit and to go with the unnatural position bit.
    But where do you draw the line with gaining an advantage?

    In the first of those gifs, the ball would have gone straight to one of our players. In the 2nd, you can't really tell, but it may have been a pass or it may have been him turning past the defender. Either way, we'd have been in a good position.

    I can see the argument for not allowing a goal to be scored with the hand/arm, but what if the accidental hand ball clearly stops an obvious goal scoring opportunity?

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    We all know that if we win the league by 1 or 2 points this controversy will get brought up (even more than it already will)

    I wonder whether the ref 'reflected' on the 2nd incident (WTFBTW?) and looked favourably on the Ox/Kos goal

    Anyway, COYG and fück 'em
    Last edited by Mc Gooner; 10-04-2016 at 04:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mc Gooner View Post
    We all know that if we win the league by 1 or 2 points this controversy will get brought up (even more than it already will)

    I wonder whether the ref 'reflected' on the 2nd incident (WTFBTW?) and looked favourably on the Ox/Kos goal

    Anyway, COYG and fück 'em
    Do you mean like the two handballs that won Liverpool the FA Cup against us keep not being brought up?

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Mo Britain less Europe View Post
    Do you mean like the two handballs that won Liverpool the FA Cup against us keep not being brought up?
    Right. There *is* a mild anti-Arsenal conspiracy in the media, I think, but we shouldn't mind it because it mostly actually works in our favour. Arguably, we get more coverage than we deserve.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

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