Swing is cool, man.Originally Posted by Dr Headgear - Wannabe viking
I bet you listen to some right pervy stuff though. The really dischordant cauterwaul that makes Sonic Youth sound like The Beatles.
Swing is cool, man.
I bet you listen to some right pervy stuff though. The really dischordant cauterwaul that makes Sonic Youth sound like The Beatles.
Leave Sonic Youth out of this, and dont tell me youve never dug a bit of feedback driven a-tonality
Works. Every. Time.
I used to be able to listen to European Sun when I was young and very stoned. I can't any more. I prefer feedback-driven tonality (Jesus and the Mary Chain).
I watched that Late Show: No Nirvana special the other day. Sugar always make me think of you for some reason. Also, their drummer is impossibly dainty techniquewise.
I used to be able to listen to European Sun when I was young and very stoned. I can't any more. I prefer feedback-driven tonality (Jesus and the Mary Chain).
Ooh, thanks for posting that. Haven't seen it for a couple of years. GepettoGoing to see Belly in a few weeks! At the Forum.
And yes, I could have cited Sugar as a harmonic feedback love. You are right, the drumming is exquisite, and their sound is stamped indelibly on my soul.
This song is what my mind actually sounds like.
Ooh, thanks for posting that. Haven't seen it for a couple of years. Gepetto
And yes, I could have cited Sugar as a harmonic feedback love. You are right, the drumming is exquisite, and their sound is stamped indelibly on my soul.
This song is what my mind actually sounds like.
Early 90s grainy, jerky and artful videos. Everything is basically The Kids in the Hall's title sequence.
On the Bobster, have you heard this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1HW4jlQl0
No, I hadn't. Cheers.
On the Bobster, have you heard this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1HW4jlQl0
Well typically I'd be more likely to go for something like this:
There are some avant garde "discordant" pieces I like, but it's a rare mood.
Does it get better when you know it well? Anticipating the path of the solos is crucial, I imagine, when there are about nine of them, and all, to the untutored ear, on pretty random notes not really affiliated with any of the nice keys.
I'm not saying you should never play off the nice notes, but I prefer it done in passing, and on the way to the harmomic stuff rather than a destiny itself. I heard it said once that the Beatles resurrected proper classical music, with an adherence to the mathematical laws that make western music harmonic, which had been abandoned by 20th century classical and jazz's experimentalism. I like the nice notes, you see. Played in a line, as melody, on together, as harmony.
Now, some more of what I like that can be considered in the jazz camp.
Hmmmm....
Work Song was one of the more straight ahead hard bop tunes. Lot's of notes, sure, but very few breaking the harmonic underpinning of the tune, which is a basic 16 bar minor blues. I suspect if you transcribed the solos and played them on electric guitar with a bit of feedback they wouldn't sound out of place. Mostly pentatonic, with some blue notes that add colour and tension/resolution, and some chord substitutions (also to add colour and tension/resolution). It's well on the funkier/bluesier end of the jazz spectrum.
For a real masterpiece in tension and resolution, you can't beat Coltrane's A Love Supreme album. He doesn't actually play that many different notes, but has huge variation in his phrasing and combination of them. It's incredibly powerful, almost visceral. Definitely not noodling! You can hear pain, passion, ecstasy in every note. Also worth thinking about in terms other than harmony/melody/rhythm - the tonal texture, for instance, the soundscape. We're used to describing Phil Spectors "wall of sound", for instance, or understanding hard rock as something that blasts you away, but similar things were happening in jazz.
I don't think you'll like it, but I dare you to listen to it all the way through (or experience it, more let it wash over you - just like an acid trip, if you try too hard to understand, control or fight it you'll have a **** time). Just the first 4 parts (the rest is just extras), a little over half an hour.
PS - yes it does grow on you. I didn't like it when I was younger, it's not particularly accessible or easy listening. Now I know almost every note by heart.
PPS - I love a bit of The Duke as well, cheers
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