Yes, I liked that as well. At least the first couple of times I heard it....
Yes, I liked that as well. At least the first couple of times I heard it....
i think we've got a good bunch of key players, but when it's come to backup we've fallen well short. if we had better options as a squad then we'd have come 2nd guaranteed. it just got to the point where at the end (even from the west ham game) we were blowing out of our arses and had just run out of steam. - by Tone - 05/16/2016 08:49AM
I've said this all season, when he's poor we drop points, it just highlights how ridiculius it's been having one striker all season - by Rumbles - 05/16/2016 08:48AM
It crumbles from here. Its the usual pattern. Whos our next manager? - by Penge - 05/16/2016 08:38AM
I'm not renewing - by gdp - 05/16/2016 08:45AM
Dembele to Man Utd, Kane breaks his leg at the euros and Levyand Poch fall out over transfers, tower crane collapses on the new stadium site and kills 14 people on the high rd and we get sued and go bust - by Rumbles Happy monday - 05/16/2016 08:42AM
it wont, in fact i expect us to be stronger from it, but right now its a ****ing shocker - by .TC. - 05/16/2016 08:41AM
I hope you're right but the way we have ended the season has shown such a level of petulance and unprofessional ism I fear if we do go the way of end a season poorly start a season poorly, poch will be gone before Xmas - by viveledaniel - 05/16/2016 08:45AM
i disagree, in fact i think this collapse makes it easier for poch to go certian players and say you failed you're gone, - by .TC. - 05/16/2016 08:48AM
Like who? If he pins the last few games on someone like mason then hes a total **** - by Balham - 05/16/2016 08:55AM
Well, hopefully this will be a lesson for Poch and our young players and I believe they will improve on this..However, there's one person who I fear will hold us back, and who is too old and stubborn not to learn from this and that is Levy...He needs to prove us wrong showing that he has learned from when we got into the CL the first time and invest on the back of CL qualification and really give it a go..Doubt it though(nt) - by Yourconscience - 05/16/2016 08:44AM
john terry - by jimmy hotspur - 05/16/2016 08:40AM
Koeman. Keeps the 'copying the southampton model' thing going for a while longer. - by Balham just remembering that the little penfold **** wants a billion pounds to **** off - 05/16/2016 08:39AM
SIMB(nt) - by Yourconscience - 05/16/2016 08:39AM
In many ways I preferred last season to this - cup run, day out at Wembley (**** as it was), Harry Kane coming onto the scene and ripping Chelsea a new one, beating Arsenal...my beloved Bobby Soldado ambling around collecting yellow cards and not doing much else. - by GarlandGreene - 05/16/2016 08:32AM
Punchy on here! - by Mil - 05/16/2016 08:30AM
>>>>>> - by Tone - 05/16/2016 08:45AM
Always is after the last game and those ****s have found yet another way to embarrass us. (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 08:32AM
Lillywhite on Lillywhite! - by BDJ - 05/16/2016 08:31AM
nice weekend Mil?. * built a chicken coop yesterday* - by jimmy hotspur - 05/16/2016 08:31AM
Collymore had fun yesterday anyway - whilst Gary Neville had a touch of histrionics - by gdp - 05/16/2016 08:22AM
I can only assume Choristers was fully booked. - by MarkP - 05/16/2016 08:27AM
ha some changed of gear from TC. For the last few weeks he was telling us to relax and enjoy the great season we've had. Not quite so chillaxed today. And Mil. Remember our sensational season you were telling us we were having? How are you feeling about that today - by Dack LEVY OUT POOCH OUT - 05/16/2016 08:21AM
it has been a great season and ill be able to relect on that again before next season starts, but right now, this is a bad one - by .TC. - 05/16/2016 08:42AM
Its better than i could have imagined. Ive seen some great football, weve got a good 1st eleven, i would have teken 3rd all day long. Why do you get a kick out of ttyring to come across as an ' i told you so', i was right, please give me a big chufty as i was right' Is that what you need. Are you insecure? - by Mil - 05/16/2016 08:27AM
No Mil but I hate people talking utter *******s. We've finished below Arsenal yet again and failed again to win a trophy. A lower points total then AVB managed despite all those simpering, arse licking articles we've had to put up with about Pooch and hos special, special team. We've capitulated in a season were it was our only chance ever to win the league - by Dack - 05/16/2016 08:32AM
I wouldnt worry about it mate. its not like you go is it? - by Mil - 05/16/2016 08:38AM
I was going to WHL while you were mooning over George Parris' hampton. As T said, if you aren't pissed off today then you're simply not Spurs - by Dack looking at the new Alliance of JB and Glassy - 05/16/2016 08:42AM
It must be some comfort that you've now officially retired on here then - by JonnieB will miss you, but still - 05/16/2016 08:50AM
Ot is JB, it is. Look what Spurs has done to us. - by Dack - 05/16/2016 09:03AM
Done to you - by JonnieB hasn't changed - 05/16/2016 09:04AM
We drove up yesterday morning leaving mine at 6 gerri g there at one due to traffic then straight back on the final whistle, 706 mile round trip :0( - by Rumbles - 05/16/2016 08:19AM
Missed gdp mugging you up unall then - by ntb Bad times - 05/16/2016 08:22AM
Surprised you could remember the scoring system - by gdp - 05/16/2016 08:23AM
I saw Glenn Hoddle play - by ntb Back in your box son - 05/16/2016 08:25AM
Ouch - by gdp - 05/16/2016 08:20AM
AVB got more points than we got this season. - by GILLY - 05/16/2016 08:13AM
Even if we'd have finished with more points than AVB did, you'd have to say what an amazing achievement it was by him to have got that many points, this season we were challenging for a title, at one point we'd hardly lost any games and if we had finished strongly still wouldn't have had that many more than he got us - by viveledaniel - 05/16/2016 08:28AM
Spot on. Amidst a backdrop of the **** sherwood slithering around and levy siding with adebayor over a ****ing hat. - by Balham - 05/16/2016 08:33AM
And came fifth - by BDJ - 05/16/2016 08:18AM
Exactly, we've managed to **** the bed in this piss easy season, and people expect us to still challenge with a CL campaign and a harder league when City, Utd and Chels** sort themselves out, plus a re-emerging Liverpool. (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 08:21AM
stumble on another Alli, Dier & Kane & we'll be laughing - by c-spur crying - 05/16/2016 08:23AM
We took a massive counting but we finished third and will be playing in the European cup for what, the third time in well over 100 odd years. - by BDJ - 05/16/2016 08:23AM
We'll end up doing as well as we do in the Europa, the only winner will be Levy who gets more TV money in this one. (nt) - by MisterT breaking out the bunting - 05/16/2016 08:26AM
**** all you can do about it luv - by BDJ - 05/16/2016 08:27AM
Oh, I know, but ranting on here is better than me sacking all the gooners working downstairs and destorying the company. (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 08:30AM
It's the ****s who aren't really into football, giving us grief that I find it harder not to wish cancer on their children - by BDJ - 05/16/2016 08:33AM
Haha, very much this. "Oh Spurs..yeah Im more rugby man myself but..haha" *smiles curtly, eyes up nearby potential weapons* - by MarkP - 05/16/2016 08:43AM
haha word. (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 08:37AM
Why does the ghost of steve jobs assume we want to say counting all the ****ing time? - by Balham - 05/16/2016 08:24AM
Yes he did, in a harder league season as well. But he didn't talk ****e to get mongs on board. - by Dack looking at his winners medals. - 05/16/2016 08:18AM
You will have a few bells saying things like 'its irrelevant cos the season was different' and so on. But youre correct of course. Wonder if pooch will ever come close to winning the same amount of silverware? - by Balham thinks not - 05/16/2016 08:18AM
Careful mate, you'll upset gerry. (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 08:16AM
I'm not upset that you and Gilly can't grasp a simple concept - by gdp - 05/16/2016 08:19AM
I'll hit a girl gerry, just remember that. (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 08:21AM
And went mad and was sacked - by JonnieB - 05/16/2016 08:16AM
Well we said it would be a disaster to finish below the scum and let's face it, it is. Nothing to celebrate in finishing second but **** me it feels **** to finish third. - by trappy has a chronic hangover - 05/16/2016 09:13AM
do we believe that the bomb at old trafford was a dummy left behind from a training exercise or is that just a cover up? - by .TC. - 05/16/2016 09:09AM
A cover up? - by RJM - 05/16/2016 09:31AM
Yes, as its too ridiculous an excuse otherwise. - by MarkP - 05/16/2016 09:14AM
"Wolves' League One promotion party was nearly cancelled after fans discovered a fake BOMB left behind in Molineux executive box by police officers" ... Almost 30,000 supporters were in jubilant mood as they celebrated the club's return to the Championship during the League One match with Carlisle United on May 3. But up in one section of the Steve Bull Stand, fans were being evacuated after the discovery of the imitation explosive device, which had been used by police in an earlier training exercise and mistakenly left there" ... 16 May 2014 ... so believe ... unless that was a cover-up as well - by gdp - 05/16/2016 09:12AM
Didn't help the last 3 we were already 3rd and qualified for CL, Arsenal still had to keep going in case Man City pushed them into 4th. - by viper - 05/16/2016 09:00AM
yep. Always a bit easier to chase than stay in front - by Horsham Spur us chasing Leicester being the exception to this rule of course - 05/16/2016 09:01AM
Dack if you hate people who talk utter *******s then why on Earth do you put yourself through it on here every day? This place isnt for you, move along...... nothing to see here...... - by Horsham Spur - 05/16/2016 08:57AM
That's why I haven't been on here for the last couple of weeks and had no intention if returning until August. Only one more day of me then you can all look back fondly on this sensational season, in peace. Rumbles said he was joining me in a summer break as well :-0 - by Dack - 05/16/2016 09:01AM
i thought you hadnty been on becuase of your big move, how did it go? - by .TC. - 05/16/2016 09:21AM
You will miss cricket SIMB - first test starts Thursday. Sri Lanka could be anything. Pakistan are always good value, should be less no-balls this year. Referendum SIMB should be fun as well. nt - by fishlovinyid - 05/16/2016 09:11AM
Is that all of you not returning until August? - by gdp - 05/16/2016 09:02AM
Dunno anout Thelonius but the rest of us are going trolling mumsnet - by Dack - 05/16/2016 09:05AM
I think I'll set up an account on mumsnet too just to witness this(nt) - by Yourconscience - 05/16/2016 09:15AM
haha nt - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 09:12AM
Haha - by Rumbles - 05/16/2016 09:09AM
haha(nt) - by Yourconscience - 05/16/2016 09:06AM
so many false dawns. so many nearlys. i'm wondering whether to renew but i don't want to lose my points and be virtually guaranteed tickets for away games and finals etc. - by Tone will most likely buy then sell his tickets for each game - 05/16/2016 08:47AM
stubhub will be great next season - by .TC. - 05/16/2016 09:02AM
Get a grip you ****ing HAMPTON - by Mil - 05/16/2016 08:49AM
i've been saying i'm not going to renew for the last 3 or 4 years. £800 for a year is good value but i can't be arsed with the grief and just want to sack it off - by Tone would rather spend it flying instead - 05/16/2016 08:51AM
Itsthe furthest thing from my mind. Although im well ****ed off that we arent going to play CL at the Lane. Thats ****. - by Mil - 05/16/2016 08:56AM
Im wondering when they are going to officially slip us that little morsel..I suspect it would have been today had we got second..will have to wait until someone signs a new contract now. - by MarkP - 05/16/2016 08:59AM
Didn't Arsenal play all their CL games at Wembley one year?(nt) - by Yourconscience - 05/16/2016 08:58AM
Yep, and they struggled badly. (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 09:05AM
Seems like a hundred years ago(nt) - by Yourconscience - 05/16/2016 09:07AM
It was the old Wembley I think so was quiet a while back - by gdp - 05/16/2016 09:09AM
It was in '99... 17 years ago, the horror(nt) - by Yourconscience - 05/16/2016 09:18AM
The highlight ofmy season was witnessing alis goal away at palace the rest of it has been a bit meh as I missed the city abd utd home wins...I'm glad it's over...**** football in the ear - by Rumbles - 05/16/2016 08:54AM
Casting Utd aside in that dizzy 10 minute spell for me - by Horsham Spur loved pointing out the exits for those Manc/Surrey ****ers - 05/16/2016 09:00AM
Congrats on winning the prediction league title..it's quite the fairytale(nt) - by Yourconscience - 05/16/2016 09:01AM
Watford away, United at home and getting out of my depth and walking up from Earls Court to Chelsea away with 30 Spurs dinosaurs - by MarkP - 05/16/2016 08:57AM
We used to talk on here and say we were basically a one man team with Bale, if he didnt perform we didnt. Have we really moved on in anyway with Kane? If he doesn't perform neither do we generally. We can talk about the emergence of Alli and Dembele and the what Alderwiereld has bought to the defence, but Kane is the main man in everything good we do. Have we just spent the last 3 years changing all those players to stand still really. We're hitting the same amout of points, mentally we're still weak, we still don't win anything. I'm sure this will produce a Hazard novella response but I'm not convinced we've moved away from being dependent on one player still. (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 08:47AM
Maybe a two man team................ - by NTY - 05/16/2016 09:02AM
You're welcome ;o) nt - by GuinnessJoe - 05/16/2016 09:42AM
Kick in the nuts mate, even for a positive soul like yourself. (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 09:19AM
the main mucha was going to sell him in january to napoli for 10mil mate. Imagine if he had? - by Balham - 05/16/2016 09:06AM
We have moved on, Levy is paying himself £500,000 more now than the last full season under AVB - it must reflect our success. nt - by fishlovinyid - 05/16/2016 09:00AM
It's not even that we're just relying on him most of the time, it's that we're relying on him pulling a goal out of nowhere. He makes so many of his own shooting opportunities that I think it makes it seem like we create more clear cut chances than we actually do. We still had more than 60% possession yesterday and managed to do **** all with it...again. - by GarlandGreene - 05/16/2016 08:54AM
I'm assuming Ledley and David Howells escorted the VIP group to the game. The latter seemed to have the right hump for some reason. - by trappy - 05/16/2016 09:38AM
Timing in this transfervm window is everything, get it done asap so we have a pre season with the new players and start the season prepared, this won't hsppen as the littke man likes to leave everything to the last day thinking he's being clever. - by Rumbles - 05/16/2016 09:30AM
its going to be another feable attempt at 'buying' players. Donna Cullen will distribute some ****y bull**** ITK to her nonces to make it seem like we are the good guys getting a rough deal from other chairman. Nothing will happen. We will get some unknow ******** player from some 2-bob league *ala chadli* in a position wedont really need cover for purelyas we may make some profit on him. Poch will claim hes happy, we still renew. We still **** the first few games, he is sacked before the end of the season. Its written in stone. Its what will happen, nothing will everchange. **** you, **** you all, **** levy, **** poch, **** spurs, **** israel, **** north london, inshallah allah inshabad - by Penge - 05/16/2016 09:56AM
We won't make a signing of worth until the euros are over...if at all - by Granty 3 squad players purchased plus winks and Pritchard promoted - 05/16/2016 09:51AM
You'd think so yeah, but that just shows how little you know about football and business. Why should we fork out now and miss out on 3 months of interest from the bank? And if course there's 3 months of wages for them doing nothing. The season starts sept 2nd. Just look at all the mugs doing their ins and outs early, they are nobodies in football. - by Dan - 05/16/2016 09:44AM
its easier just to write-off our transfer windows before they open - by c-spur - 05/16/2016 09:34AM
Is there any friendlies scheduled halfway across the world just before the season starts again? - by Balham - 05/16/2016 09:33AM
We are going to Australia at some point, I know that #keyterritories - by MarkP - 05/16/2016 09:35AM
ha! we should just drop out of the Premier League & play exhibition matches around the world - by c-spur knows we would if it was more profitable - 05/16/2016 09:49AM
Late July - Juventus and Atletico Madrid - assuming that'll be it - by gdp - 05/16/2016 09:39AM
Yes, two weeks before season starts. - by MarkP - 05/16/2016 09:40AM
Two weeks isn't too bad - better than the Audi Cup games midweek before the start of this season - unless we're doing those as well - by gdp - 05/16/2016 09:46AM
If that is the only touring we do then, yes, I would agree and at least we are playing proper teams and not some hasbeens, never beens and no hopers from the A-League. Season starts weekend of 13th so you'd hope for a home friendly weekend of 6th and no other jetsetting. - by MarkP - 05/16/2016 09:48AM
haha. Poor kane, they are actually trying to hurt him. - by Balham - 05/16/2016 09:45AM
We'll have two other strikers by then mate.. - by MarkP - 05/16/2016 09:50AM
ha, I'll have a large one - by Balham expecting 'sonny' to lead the line down under - 05/16/2016 09:53AM
Haha, what?? - by Mil - 05/16/2016 09:43AM
Jesus christ. - by Balham - 05/16/2016 09:37AM
Euros might make things #difficult ;o) - by gdp - 05/16/2016 09:32AM
has anyone been watching 'the five' on sky 1, brilliant last 2 episodes, until the final episode of undercover which was awful - by .TC. - 05/16/2016 09:23AM
really enjoyed it , although the last episode seemed rushed - by Holstenpils - 05/16/2016 09:34AM
Yep, I watched it. Very good indeed although you really have to concentrate all the way through so as not to get lost - by Dougal - loves a bit of Harlen Coben - 05/16/2016 09:27AM
No, I do watch the whole of the first series of 'Billions' this weekend though, quite enjoyable. (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 09:25AM
The whole series? How many Eps? - by Mil - 05/16/2016 09:35AM
12 - all available in the Sky Boxset bit. (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 09:37AM
I have watched all but the last episode of that based entirely on characters on here saying the finale was appalling. I just don't know where to turn - by JonnieB also found both Giamatti and Damien Lewis immensely irritating - 05/16/2016 09:26AM
Well it's a bit predictable and cliched, but you can pretty much tell where it's heading anyway. (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 09:29AM
I watched the first one last night. I don't think I can do anymore due to wanting to punch Lewis. The Julia Davis Camping comedy is very good. nt - by fishlovinyid - 05/16/2016 09:28AM
Just watch it, Jonnie..Who knows, you might like it(nt) - by Yourconscience - 05/16/2016 09:26AM
But what if I don't? What then? Both Barry Took and Terry Wogan are dead......who should I write to? - by JonnieB - 05/16/2016 09:27AM
Jeremy Vine I believe - by gdp - 05/16/2016 09:33AM
Don't argue, just>> - by Yourconscience - 05/16/2016 09:30AM
Shambolic yesterday and such a deflating end to what should go down as an enjoyable season. Players were a disgrace first half and Poch made 2 changes. Second half we got back in it and at 1-2 v 10 men surely you could only see one outcome. Yes the penalty decision swung it and it was a terrible dive, but I dont understand the change to 3-5-2 when really we had 20+ minutes with 75% of the ball and I'm sure we'd have cracked them. Just went to pieces and played a naive unprofessional immature game and got what we deserved. There are no positives unless you scrape for them. Poch will know (or he should) that under the first xi there isn't much bar Wimmer and the full backs and Son at a push. Mentally we are not quite the same old Tottenham, but it can rear it's ugly head with the simplest of upsets. We're not the soft touch we once were, but we're still fragile. £60m the papers say, if he gets that net I'd be very surprised but I hope he does of course. See you in the CL. nt - by NTY - 05/16/2016 09:18AM
The only reason we didn't finish second was the fact that our 2 best midfielders got themselves banned from the last few games. Had either played we would have got the point we needed in one of the games. - by Lurking Yid - 05/16/2016 09:24AM
Nonsense. We started collapsing with them in the team, see the west brom game. We collapsed because we have a very small squad bereft of quality beyond the first 11 and the management of that squad in games and especially in training was piss poor. - by Balham - 05/16/2016 09:29AM
I thought the first half v WBA we played some incredible football, never got the 2nd and that was that. nt - by NTY - 05/16/2016 09:34AM
All that matters are results mate. To me that second half we looked ****ed and we had nothing to offer once they equalised. - by Balham - 05/16/2016 09:36AM
so we blame ali and dembele then becuase both bans was for stupid things - by .TC. - 05/16/2016 09:26AM
Some of us did say earlier on in the season we were walking a tightrope with regard to our discipline. I thought it'd be for picking up too many yellow cards actually, but it just manifested itself in a team lacking discipline in the end. (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 09:34AM
I'm sorry but that's *******s. We were playing a side who had already been relegated then who went down to 10 men. We should have managed a point in that game playing the academy side - by Dougal - 05/16/2016 09:26AM
The men at power at Spurs clearly thought that our squad was good enough so we should've beaten them even with Alli and Dembele out(nt) - by Yourconscience - 05/16/2016 09:27AM
I dont see 60m net being enough to be honest mate. The players of the calibre we require are going to start at about 20m and we need at least 3 if not 4. We might get back in about 15 from sales but unless we sell ones we dont want to, cant see a lot more than there. Might get lucky I guess with a surprise a la Alli but by same token, for every one of him there are plently of Stambouli's out there. We need to be shopping at Selfridges not Asda this summer and need to do it before the end of season sale too. I will buy you a stein in Munich. - by MarkP - 05/16/2016 09:23AM
Had Walker stayed on we'd have won, of that I'm sure. They'd caught us on the break several times down that side, and Walker is of course our fastest defender. Obviously he must have been injured but ****ing hell, we only needed a point against 10 men. - by Dougal - 05/16/2016 09:22AM
Unless we're planning to buy yet more players 'for the future' that £60M isnt going to be enough to land the 5 we need of the necessary quality to go in the CL and the league. (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 09:22AM
certainly need a few more experienced players. Although i am not sure we can get them if we only sign under 27's : ) - by jimmy hotspur - 05/16/2016 09:21AM
Still of the snouts? - by JonnieB - 05/16/2016 09:22AM
yep. it was only a birthday thing - by jimmy hotspur - 05/16/2016 09:24AM
Off, even - by JonnieB - 05/16/2016 09:22AM
Why not play Rose? Any word on that? And the papers are always quite off the mark with the transfer kittys so £60m probably is probably half that in the real world(nt) - by Yourconscience - 05/16/2016 09:20AM
on reflection, what was your game of the season? - by Tone enjoyed swansea at home the most - 05/16/2016 10:16AM
Southend beating Colchester 3-0 - by Jerusalem - 05/16/2016 10:49AM
Utd at home (of the games I went to). City away in front of TV audience of millions was a brilliant statement though. - by Horsham Spur - 05/16/2016 10:47AM
What Penge said. - by Mil - 05/16/2016 10:26AM
Stoke away was an awesome performance. A funny one sticks in my mind. Watford at home. We only won 1-0 to a Trippier tap in, but we were incredible. Breathless performance and thier manager said as much after. nt - by NTY - 05/16/2016 10:24AM
Stoke away was probably one of the best and most complete away performances that I have seen in recent years from a Spurs team. Just a pity that we fell apart after that nt - by MacNamarasBand - 05/16/2016 10:21AM
Arse*al away. All over them for 70 mins then ****ing melted, conceded and were lucky to cling on. Summed up our season in 90 mins. (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 10:21AM
Stoke away for me - superb performance - by Bongoman - 05/16/2016 10:20AM
That was fun ... Leicester City we're coming for you! - by gdp - 05/16/2016 10:21AM
Turned out to be a Benny Hill chase with funny music(nt) - by Yourconscience - 05/16/2016 10:37AM
Couldnt ****ing tell u - by Penge - 05/16/2016 10:20AM
Man U I reckon - of the ones I went to - by gdp missed Man City at home - 05/16/2016 10:19AM
United at home. - by MarkP - 05/16/2016 10:17AM
5 degrees C here in the middle of May..****weather(nt) - by Yourconscience - 05/16/2016 10:11AM
So we automatically are through to the CL group stage - one less excuse for Levy to use then ! - by The General - 05/16/2016 10:10AM
Ah - cuddly Boris and his Hitler invoking - the lovable rogue - by gdp - 05/16/2016 10:06AM
Next PM, hopefully by September 2016. nt - by fishlovinyid - 05/16/2016 10:08AM
is he wrong? - by .TC. - 05/16/2016 10:07AM
He previously said the idea of the European Union was to bind the countries together so that they could never go to war again and it had been a spectacular success ... "Together with Nato the European Community, now Union, has helped to deliver a period of peace and prosperity for its people as long as any since the days of the Antonine emporers" ... that was in his 2014 book ... it's almost like he chops & changes as it suits just in pursuit of power - by gdp - 05/16/2016 10:14AM
thats not what we are discussing though is it - by .TC. - 05/16/2016 10:16AM
Yes we are - he was right in 2014, he's wrong now - by gdp - 05/16/2016 10:16AM
we maybe he was right in 2014 but thinmgs have changed , so he has changed his views along with it, syria for example has had a detromental affect on the eu - by .TC. - 05/16/2016 10:17AM
You don't know which one he believes but he's not changed his views, he does this all the time - by gdp - 05/16/2016 10:18AM
I'm fairly sure the EU has yet to put anyone in an oven - by Dougal - 05/16/2016 10:10AM
thats not what he was suggesting though was it - by .TC. - 05/16/2016 10:11AM
Would it be better if the club just disbanded? There doesn't seem to be a single thing that they can do right, so they might as well just call it a day - by JonnieB - 05/16/2016 09:59AM
i am 1 of the most optimistic spurs fans on here, id say second to nty, and im hurting today, they can all **** off, - by .TC. for a couple of months , ill love them again by august - 05/16/2016 10:04AM
Haha morning old friend.................... - by NTY - 05/16/2016 10:01AM
God it's depressing though - by JonnieB doesn't mean Spurs, means this ****ing place - 05/16/2016 10:03AM
Yes it is. I've really really enjoyed this season. The football has been exhilarating at times and there is something wonderful about watching this team develop. If I'm critical I think we handled the cups badly, the striker situation poorly and the last 2 games have been disappointing. These are things they already know and will address. I'm excited for the summer, for next season, for CL football. I'm worried about the first 4 games with no Moussa. This place sucks. nt - by NTY - 05/16/2016 10:08AM
Well what do you expect? The nature of that capitulation couldn't have been any more embarassing - by Dougal - has had to watch all his gooner mates being smug on facebook - 05/16/2016 10:05AM
You are 48 years old, what the **** do you care what some shower of ****s say on Facebook? ****ing hell man, grow a spine - by JonnieB - 05/16/2016 10:06AM
difference for me at least is, ive got a lot of arsenal mates, who have all be slaughtering me, and also i work in a room with 200 blokes, and another 300 in the room next door, as i walked through the door i got hammered its unbearable - by .TC. - 05/16/2016 10:09AM
Live by the Banz, die by the Bantz - by JonnieB - 05/16/2016 10:11AM
The stat on the bbc about us and Leicester using the least number of players throughout the season is very significant. Quite simply we don't have the squad to be able to make a push in the league, cups and Europe. Even more so with Poch's high energy style of football. Weren't the Southampton fans saying their team used to tail off at the end of the season as the players were ****ed, mentally and physically? - by Bongoman - 05/16/2016 10:23AM
did you see the motd commentator from our match didnt even mention the dive for the pen, if it wasnt for the fact there was an ex spurs player as a pundit i doubt they would have mentioned it at all - by .TC. - 05/16/2016 10:34AM
Well we lost 5-1 - by Dougal - 05/16/2016 10:56AM
If you're going to play as we do, you need a big squad and proper quality on the bench. I think that Pochettino's methods can work but it's going to require a fair amount of investment. He needs to be able to rotate and for that he needs squad players he can rely on. At the moment we have Son, N'Jie and Chadli who all basically do the same thing, then we have Mason, Carroll and Bentaleb who aren't really very good - by Dougal - 05/16/2016 10:29AM
You're intimating that his methods have not worked this season? nt - by NTY - 05/16/2016 10:31AM
haha, they haven't worked mate? it was a piss weak league that offered us a once in a lifetime opportunity and we limp into third and we had to chuck all three cups to do that? - by Balham - 05/16/2016 10:35AM
Well we disagree then. I'd have taken 3rd at the off. I'd have probably laughed at you if you offered it, but I'd have taken it. You can paint the doomsday picture however which way you want. We choked up 2nd place and fell to 3rd. It's not like choking up 4th and coming 5th. nt - by NTY - 05/16/2016 10:38AM
leicester won the league mate. we limped into the season's end behind them and the vermin we'd spent the season taunting. those are facts, not painting anything. expectations change as the season pans out. if united and chelsea are out of the top 4 then of course we ought to finish up there. - by Balham - 05/16/2016 10:49AM
Everyone would have taken 3rd at the beginning of the season. It's as simple as that. - by Glassy - 05/16/2016 10:46AM
Yes of course. That doesnt mean we cant adjust our ambitions as the season progresses though? - by MarkP - 05/16/2016 10:47AM
But that also doesn't mean its justified to go absolutely ****ing mental when those ambitions aren't met - by JonnieB - 05/16/2016 10:54AM
You're wrong. We just got hammered by a relegated side 5-1, who were reduced to 10 men for the final 30mins. The consequences of that defeat meant we finished below Arse*al for the 21st season running after being above them for some 3 months or so. How the **** do you expect people to just shrug their shoulders and go 'oh well, nevermind' given the majority of us are now subjected to the relentless mocking and pisstaking from friends and colleagues? It's a ****ing embarresment. (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 10:58AM
It's ****ing rubbish but it doesn't mean that everything is a complete disaster and we should take to sackcloth and ashes - by JonnieB thinks we're a pretty good football club - 05/16/2016 11:01AM
Im not sure I've gone mental about it? Im very disappointed how we have finished on a very damp squib but my concern now is how we remedy our shortcomings? - by MarkP - 05/16/2016 10:57AM
I didn't mean you - by JonnieB means Dougal - 05/16/2016 11:00AM
I just wanted to finish above Arsenal - by Dougal - 05/16/2016 11:19AM
They worked very well until they didn't. Then the wheels fell off. - by MFV - 05/16/2016 10:34AM
Won nothing, bottled key matches, end of season collapse. Only thing he's done different is qualify for the CL, and we've both agreed this is a weak league - it's not a ringing endorsment in my opinion. (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 10:34AM
was definitely worth throwing the cups for anyway. - by Balham thinks either domestic cup was absolutely winnable for us this season and would have taken that and finishing lower than 3rd all day every day - 05/16/2016 10:28AM
We got more points than anyone else in the league in the 2nd half of the season. This 'tails off' thing is a bit of a red herring IMO. We smashed United and Stoke out of sight and then had plenty of rest. We just lost out on the title and the players lost focus for the last 2 games. nt - by NTY - 05/16/2016 10:25AM
I remember teams saying we were like animals and that we were the toughest team they played...yet the way we played against West Brom, Southampton and Newcastle, it seemed like I was watching Spurs of old. We just looked lethargic and I think mentally, they were shot. We needed to be able to mix it up during the season and bring others into the team for the cups and Europa league. As T said, when Kane is off his game, the team don't respond. Kane has played so much this season, its hardly surprising that he couldn't perform in the last few games. - by Bongoman - 05/16/2016 10:32AM
Agree there. Although I think it was more to do with losing Dembele than anything else. Mentality certainly. They were shot, perhaps understandably. nt - by NTY - 05/16/2016 10:40AM
we drew a third of our games mate. 16 points from the final 11 games. demonstrably his methods of training don't work with the squad he has. without huge investment and proper rotation it still won't work. - by Balham - 05/16/2016 10:30AM
We had a poor start too. What did we get from our first 11 games? I'm not suggesting that this season has been 'sensational' because we've performed meekly in the cups and fell short on a title bid that was winnable. However we've achieved a top 4 finish which was from most sane observers not on the cards last August. His methods have worked. Spurs have improved in points and league position and performance. We now must improve again. He's had what, one full season with a 'proper' squad? nt - by NTY - 05/16/2016 10:34AM
It's been an ok season. He is an ok manager, nothing more. I'd give him another year on the proviso that we spend a ****ing fortune and do so in plenty of time for pre season. Anything else and it is the same again. As it is year in year out, the small man has a huge summer ahead of him. - by Balham - 05/16/2016 10:38AM
I think you are wrong on Poch. He'll be the first manager Levy has appointed that will leave us for something better. nt - by NTY - 05/16/2016 10:43AM
What about the final third of the season? (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 10:28AM
8th in the form table on our last 10 games. (nt) - by MisterT answering for you - 05/16/2016 10:32AM
But 1st if you add in the 9 games before that? We ****ed up the last 4 games. I think as Poch said it was more to do with mentality than fitness or tactics or ability. nt - by NTY - 05/16/2016 10:35AM
We went mental when Redknapp threw away a 10 point lead on Arse*al, we threw away a 7 point lead (8 if you include the superior goal difference) under Poch. For all the positivity talked about mid-season today feels like deja-vu. (nt) - by MisterT - 05/16/2016 10:38AM
Yes I agree there. The only difference is that under HR we lost the bragging rights and the prize. Under Poch we'd already secured the prize and just lost the bragging rights. nt - by NTY - 05/16/2016 10:44AM
lost focus in the chelsea and west brom game - by jimmy hotspur - 05/16/2016 10:27AM
Agree. In different ways, but agree. V WBA we battered them and started showboating a bit and got punished. Chelsea we had beaten them and the game was won and we got caught up in thier games and fell right into the trap. It's naive stuff. The folly of youth. Also, if I'm ultra critical Hugo as captain is not ideal. Cant really take it off him either. nt - by NTY - 05/16/2016 10:29AM
i really cant see anyone else who can do the job as captain. none of them seem to have the personality. - by jimmy hotspur - 05/16/2016 10:31AM
I think Harry has but he doesn't need the extra grief. Maybe Alds? Maybe Dier? One shout from left field might be Rose. He's been Spurs for a long time and I suspect (dont know for sure) that he has a strong will to win. nt - by NTY - 05/16/2016 10:46AM
This is actually very, very close to the true hatred between both sets of fans.
Very similar demographics, and the knowledge that but for growing up a couple of miles away you would have been "them".