Corbyn says there is a big black hole in the budget. He knows a lot about big black holes.

**the splendor of antigone** · 03-24-2016, 09:54 AM

**Mo Britain less Europe** · 03-24-2016, 09:55 AM

**the splendor of antigone** · 03-24-2016, 09:58 AM

primitive, bigoted, etc.

I think you're off by a few decades. There's no "hard left" anymore.

**Berni** · 03-24-2016, 10:00 AM

*ie him in charge and able to 're-educate' people who disagree.

**redgunamo** · 03-24-2016, 10:01 AM

**Berni** · 03-24-2016, 10:11 AM

"We need you to work in the tractor factory and double production every year."

"Ermmm. I don't really want to, though."

"OK. Well...you have to."

"What happens if I don't?"

"Siberia's nice this time of year...oh, hang on, no it's not. It's f**king horrible."

"So you're forcing me to do this?"

"Yes, but it's for the common good and so it's definitely not exploitation, OK?"

**Classic Jorge** · 03-24-2016, 10:13 AM

I'll have you know I was furthering my attempts to enter the realms of the bourgeoisie, with an agenda to smash and/or subvert the whole business, of course.

C'mon though, nobody could think that lovely, avuncular old JC is hard left though, could they?

**Sir Charlie of Nicholas** · 03-24-2016, 10:16 AM

We live in a democracy. Democracy is something of a given. Do you mean that the real 'hard left' isn't democratic?

**Classic Jorge** · 03-24-2016, 10:21 AM

and c) it's a very, very broadly accepted political term for someone who attempts to achieve a fairer society through investment in health, education and welfare via democratic control of a socialist system.

Obviously, yeah, to you they're all stalinist leninparts who will commit us to the urals for labour based reducation but then again to you David Cameron is also a ****o commie, so your opinion is taken with only the tiniest grain of salt.

**the splendor of antigone** · 03-24-2016, 10:22 AM

only truly attain self-consciousness, true freedom, and individuality through the collective, i.e. seeing yourself not as an atomized self-interested rational utilitarian nominalist whose every act and social relation is mediated by exchange value.

Or something like that.

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They still have to work, presumably. But it won't be alienated labor based on exploitation.

Middle-class boy from priviliged family trying very hard to be working class. Sound like anyone?

Them bourgeois ****s resent the working class these days though. All the calls of them being

Oh, he absolutely is. In his heart, he genuinely yearns for the dictatorship of the proletariat*

It's true though.

"But it won't be alienated labor based on exploitation"? How does that work, then?

I'm refusing to answer

But you still haven't explained why you refer to him as a democratic socialist.

Because that's a) what he is b) what he refers to himself as

You are all too entrenched in capitalist ideology, my friend. You'd very quickly find that you can

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