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Thread: Reading Sam Harris on gun control, it is a bit stupid how people

  1. #21

    But there are far fewer cases in which legal gun ownership has provided practical protection from

    criminals than there are instances where legal gun ownership has resulted in suicide, murder or accidental death, so the whole 'Only criminals will have guns' thing doesn't stand up, since the legal ownership of guns is effectively causing criminality.

    The vast majority of mass shootings in the US (of which there are a horrific number - far more than most of us realise, in fact) are carried out using legally-owned firearms. No legally-owned firearms, no mass shootings.

  2. #22

    Let's just ban everything. f**king joyless funsponge f**king culture.


  3. #23

    I seem to remember Sir C saying that virtually everyone in Rwanda was carrying an AK. But then I

    suppose you can understand them being a bit jumpy.

  4. #24

    And don't forget, their pacific tendencies are well documented.

    Oh.

  5. #25

    So in theory, you would support restrictions that would prevent

    more deaths from car accidents, if these restrictions could be implemented in way that was not prohibitively expensive?

    Like, say, dropping our motorway speed limits to 50mph?

  6. #26

    Nonsense. The fact that people like Chief Arrowhead

    almost never get burgled is hardly newsworthy, is it.

  7. #27

    So you are in complete agreement with Harris Shrug


  8. #28

    No, it may just seem that way at a casual glance though.


  9. #29

    Look, you know me. I aspire to libertarianism and like guns. However, at the end of the day I think

    we just have to accept that people cannot be trusted with them. Obviously, I think you or I should be able to walk into a shop and buy an assault rifle and have a spot of fun whanging off rounds. However, that desire is ultimately outweighed by the fact that, in order to let us do that, we'd also have to let the truly dreadful people who make up the rest of mankind do the same. And that's too high a price to pay.

    I blame democracy for this mess, of course. Once upon a time, it was simply assumed that someone who'd gone to the right school and behaved like a gentleman could be trusted to do whatever the f**k he liked - and that was pretty much right. Now, however, we can't have one rule for decent people and one rule for scum and the whole thing's f**ked.

  10. #30

    Not really, but my solution wouldnt be compatible with the US

    Which is why I have absolutely no desire to go there again and I'm perfectly happy for them to keep killing eachother, though I reserve the right to object to them pumping guns - and all sorts of other dangerous weapons - to any tinpot puppet dictatorship they choose to set up in the rest of the world.

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