If Klopp took over at Arsenal he would take us back to Day One of the Wenger era >>>

[the splendor of antigone]

[One Wilf Copping]

he's somehow built a better defence.

What is your point exactly?

Dortmund's problems are largely temporary and influenced by factors out of Klopp's control.

Wenger's problems are largely of his making and his stubborn insistence on persisting with a style that has been found out by all his rivals and wilfully refusing to strengthen key areas of the team.

Surely with an Awimb handle like 'the splendor of antigone' you'd recognise the idea of tragedy being at the heart of human experience and the irony of Wenger's own personal personal little tragedy being repeated week-in, week-out as repeats the same mistakes endlessly in the vain hope of a different outcome.

Klopp's current problems are passing ones and largely out of his control. Wenger's problems are of his own making and apparently permanent.

[gco40203]

[the splendor of antigone]

that appointing him would unquestionably lead to the rectification of the very things that are now missing in the team is ridiculously naive if you've followed Dortmund recently. They suffer from the very same things that we do, and if you're going to blame Wenger for our malady, you certainly can't absolve Klopp from blame.

If you'd said Simeone or someone who actually plays with tactical discipline, teamwork, and huge physical effort, you might have had an argument.

[One Wilf Copping]

[the splendor of antigone]

haven't been able to deal with teams that sit deep, kick the **** out of them, and hit Dortmund on the break? Because that is what has happened.

[redgunamo]