I reckon the Arsenal answer is underrated. :nod:
Not permanently, you understand, just until the end of the season.
I reckon the Arsenal answer is underrated. :nod:
Not permanently, you understand, just until the end of the season.
I know Theo to Everton is more or less a done dealQuote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
He can’t stay now, the actions of last Sunday alone mean he is effectively “gone”.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
If for example he turns down United now then we know he is a City player, so how can we select him from Feb-May. No different to last week as there would be a question mark over his commitment.
We will also know his decision to not move will have adversely affected the club’s ability or willingness to replace him with Aubameyang or whatever name you want to pick from those listed. Not that he can be blamed if we decide to be tight wads but we know this is what will happen.
Personally, though I accept my opinion is meaningless and irrelevant but just for shít and giggles etc., I would be taking their money + Mkhytarian and then spending further on messers Aubameyang and the lad Malcom. Selling Theo would help balance this expenditure while also opening room within the group.
Of course the above fails to address in any way other deficiencies which are perceived to exist but that’s for another day.
But the decision to stay is entirely up to him, we can't force him to leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
If he really wants to go to City and City will pay him what he wants in the summer he can simply sit on his arse with us for the next 4 months and there is nothing we can do about it. :shrug:
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Originally Posted by World's End Stella
Not the end of the world. That is pretty much what the rest of the players will be doing.
For the record, al those who complained every time we sold a player with one year left on his deal, this is why you do it- because keeping them for the last season creates this kind of fuss and costs you a fortune. It was a desperate and idiotic idea that shows just how poor the decision making is in the club. As much as I blame Wenger, it isnt solely down to him.
Indeed. An utter shambles in fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
He should really have played it cool like Mesut who will be equally as guilt of shafting us (as some will see it) but who is attracting little or no scorn from the Arsenal family.
I expect we will hear soon that there is a glint of light in the Mesut talks, blimey, after 1-2 years a glint of light in the home straight.
Very clever.
Fingers crossed. How do Evertonians feel about being lumbered with Theon?Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
Interesting comments from some of the journos on that Sunday morning show. Effectively that Guardiola never really played Sanchez that much and didn't rate him at Barca. Given how much Pep values possession this doesn't surprise me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
What surprised me is that Pep wants him at all. But assuming he does and Sanchez wants to go there, it will happen. If he goes elsewhere it's only because they offer him a bundle more than City will.
Not wishing to pick a fight nor to single out individuals (I couldn’t anyway) but LOADS of people were arguing fully for him to not be sold last summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Very naïve really.
I had originally thought that City didnt need him but I suppose when you are ****ing loaded and looking to win every trophy you dont limit yourself to what you actually need.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
I have a feeling he is one of those players who looks worse in a better side. I never saw him at Barcelona but I would imagine he still gave the ball away a lot.
BiL is pretty positive, knows they need pace and someone, no matter how frustrating, that at least has a rough idea where the goal is!Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
He did, at Barca I saw him any times and he looked a very talented player playing in a team whose style did not suit him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Hence my surprise at the interest from both parties
Thing is, that's actually *******s. I thought that but then looked at the stats and he played nearly all the time under PepQuote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
Yes, I know. I believe I may have even heard a reference to letting him 'rot in the reserves'......Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
I can only assume that Wenger clung on to some daft hope that a good start to the season might change his mind, or at least set us up to get back into the top four. Now even he has probably realised that neither of those things are going to happen.
If we sell him now the decision will only have cost us 30 million quid. It has ruined a season that would probably have been just as bad as anyway so that is not a disaster. The real disaster wasnt keeping Sanchez- it was keeping Wenger :(
I would love to see THeo happy and playing well somewhere else. Failing that, I would love to see him somewhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
Started or played? Would be surprising if these journos were that wrong, the stats were pretty damning.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
The glint of light (Ozil) story was put out last week. Nobody bought it....Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
Journalists? Wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
Never ;)
Well, they should be able to get simple stats correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Mostly because they have other people get them for them, I think. :-)
Started, one season he didn't and that's because he was injured on and off all season. Might have taken their stats from that season which is a little bit unfairQuote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
Yep, that sounds like most football journalists. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
Manchester United need him more, it would seem. At Least City are going to win the Premier League.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Maybe Theo will do alright, with Big Sam in charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
I suspect he will do very well there, clearly needs a fresh start. For all the maligning he gets goals, not 20 a season but certainly mid-teens and frankly, Everton need thatQuote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
He can be great, he can be ****ing woeful. If you are mid table, that is more than good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
Mentioned the other day about the payment issues the Qatar lot we’re having...owed a slew of trainers just over £1m.
Now all of sudden they developed a conscious about Alexis and don’t want to pay more than £20m or meet his wage demands.
Sounds to me like they’re already making cutbacks in the football world.
Didn’t a major journalist say yesterday that he thought Mbappe and Neymar would end up at Real?
Could be in the final couple of years of their football involvement especially if the other Arab states maintain the blockade.
Mbappe and Neymar will end up at Real probably because they are the biggest football club in the world and no matter what PSG do they will always be small compared to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony C
I would like to be the first to wish him the best of luck at Everton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
I am simply ecstatic that I will never again have to see him play for us.
:shrug:
THere will still be some players who are more concerned with the size of their wage packets than the size of the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
You could come up with a list of players who have suffered under Wenger and would have probably done much better if they had left. I dont think THeo is one of them. I think he reached his peak with us and I dont think there was a great deal more to work with.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
I think he was an example of Wenger's hubris. He believed his own hype that he could make silk purses out of sows' ears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Sometimes, however, a sow's ear is just a sow's ear.
He will be playing for Utd. We’re going to get Mkhitaryan and Aubameyang and try and create the Dortmund glory days.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
So, you're saying we made a pig's ear out of a sow's ear?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
He hit his peak in 2008.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
He was playing for England.
He is no loss to The Arsenal in 2018.
Apparently / allegedly / totally made uply us getting Mkhitaryan is the major stumbling block here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige
He thinks we are shít. Clearly the man has a television and Sky subscription.
I think the issue is he wants a pay off from Utd and they haven’t agreed to it yet. It makes sense as he will probably have to take a wage cut if he moves to us. People are quite disappointed with the idea of getting him but I think he could be great. It’s not the first player Mourinho made look ****.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
We're loaded though. That could be a factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
He never had a peak, he just bobbled along on a wave of ridiculous expectation and hype created by his early inclusion in an England WC squad, part of which it has been suggested was hype inflated by Wenger.Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
Hat-trick v Croatia possibly, some decent goals for us playing in a very attacking role in a very attacking side. No great achievement that.
Decided he wanted to be a striker, I have kids who ask me this on a Saturday morning and I just tell them no. Wenger stroked his cóck on this one.
I heard Mark Lawrenson absolutely tear him a new arsehóle last week on the radio. Was never a top player, will never be a top player, over hyped from day one like so many other young players before and after him. He labelled the age old accusation at him that he simply does not really understand the game and does not have the raw desire or whatever to really grab it by the bollócks and thrive.
Absolute cracking player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige
:nod:
indeed, De Bruyne.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige
The thought of Ozil going to work with that ****, Mourinho, again makes me feel sick.