I know this is hugely humiliating for May personally, but it does seem a leeetle bit

weird for Labour supporters to be celebrating so gleefully what is ultimately a defeat (assuming they cannot form a minority government) and one that will see continued Tory rule for the forseable.

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Originally Posted by Monty92

weird for Labour supporters to be celebrating so gleefully what is ultimately a defeat (assuming they cannot form a minority government) and one that will see continued Tory rule for the forseable.

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Since the only reason the election was called was because May assumed they would walk it with a huge majority, a Labour performance where they have confounded the critics must be seen as a good result... he has won more votes than Blair did when he won 2 elections.

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Originally Posted by Pokster

Since the only reason the election was called was because May assumed they would walk it with a huge majority, a Labour performance where they have confounded the critics must be seen as a good result... he has won more votes than Blair did when he won 2 elections.

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Of course it was a good result relative to expectations, but they lost :shrug:

The point of politics is to gain power.

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weird for Labour supporters to be celebrating so gleefully what is ultimately a defeat (assuming they cannot form a minority government) and one that will see continued Tory rule for the forseable.

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Well, yes. Amid all the glee, there must be the sneaking realisation that this is pretty much as good as it can get for them.

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Of course it was a good result relative to expectations, but they lost :shrug:

The point of politics is to gain power.

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They were never going to win... this result is the best result they could have possibly got

If you have to lose, a narrow, battling defeat is better than the far heavier, humiliating one people may have expected.

That's not difficult to grasp, is it. Except if you're Wenger, I suppose :-\

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weird for Labour supporters to be celebrating so gleefully what is ultimately a defeat (assuming they cannot form a minority government) and one that will see continued Tory rule for the forseable.

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Since the only reason the election was called was because May assumed they would walk it with a huge majority, a Labour performance where they have confounded the critics must be seen as a good result... he has won more votes than Blair did when he won 2 elections.

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And May won more votes than Cameron in 2015. That's kind of irrelevant, though.

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Well, yes. Amid all the glee, there must be the sneaking realisation that this is pretty much as good as it can get for them.

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I warned you months and months ago that a mobilisation of the youth vote is not out of the question. You clearly don't spend enough time on Facebook :-(

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They were never going to win... this result is the best result they could have possibly got

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Which is what we've been telling Corbyn supporters for two years and they didn't believe us :shrug:

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They were never going to win... this result is the best result they could have possibly got

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Exactly. This is as good as it can get and they still lost. That must be a sobering thought for any Labour supporter, I'd have thought.