Interesting way to spin this story, given the fact that the NHS comes second last in

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Originally Posted by Ash

You want to fine people now for not eating up their vegetables?

Some of the most health-service intensive people I know actually have quite 'healthy' diets and lifestyles. I smoke, drink somewhat heavily, eat English breakfasts and even some #gasp ready-meals and have been the doctor's once in ten years and about twice in the ten years before that.

So basically **** the food-snob policing of lifestyles. It's just another version of virtue/status signalling imo.

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No. I’m saying you could use the tax system as a deterrent with fast food and very unhealthy stuff in the same way we do with smoking (because that has worked really well ;))

I don’t think accepted wisdom is that bad diet makes you drop down dead in your 30s or 40s. It’s the problems it can cause in later life. Most of us tend not to worry about that and I’m not convinced that an NHS lecture is going to change our minds.

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To be honest, I don't really take that survey terribly seriously, since it is clearly designed to laud the most socialised forms of medicine and punish the least (i.e. the US). I just find it amusing that, even in such a survey, the NHS comes bottom in terms of healthcare outcomes.

I would argue that hiving these things off into different, competing departments is exactly the problem, though. Other countries do educate their populace far better in terms of food and exercise and for me, those are health-related matters and should therefore fall under the remit of a true national health service. Otherwise, its 'prevention' strategies can only be reactive.

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Well the survey appears floored if for no other reason than that it ranks the country with the second poorest health outcomes as the best provider.

On the other point, surely the key is that the message gets through, not who it comes from. How do the other countries that do such a wonderful job of this manage it?

And won’t you be the first in the queue to bang on about the NHS spending money on retard cooking classes instead of beds and kidney machines?

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Well the survey appears floored if for no other reason than that it ranks the country with the second poorest health outcomes as the best provider.

On the other point, surely the key is that the message gets through, not who it comes from. How do the other countries that do such a wonderful job of this manage it?

And won’t you be the first in the queue to bang on about the NHS spending money on retard cooking classes instead of beds and kidney machines?

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Mmm, kidneys. Devilled, on toast. Lovely, if a bit pissy.

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Originally Posted by SWv2

Don't sunshine me pal.

I am a fan of your NHS. While I have no doubt the organisation as a whole is pretty much fúcked and the overlords at the top are hugely incompetent the public facing staff in most hospitals are superb and do their best in trying circumstances.

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The problem with the NHS is that is has nothing to do with health. It is a purely political entity, designed to make socialism appear normal. It is a Trojan horse whose gift is communism.

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Mmm, kidneys. Devilled, on toast. Lovely, if a bit pissy.

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Dirty bastárd.

Dear old Twix used to swear by them. Another dirty bástard.

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Dirty bastárd.

Dear old Twix used to swear by them. Another dirty bástard.

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Veal kidneys are good done in the French style, but look a bit iffy.

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Veal kidneys are good done in the French style, but look a bit iffy.

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Looks like fried shíte.

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Ah, the little ratte potatoes in the background. Easily the best salad potato for my money.

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Ah, the little ratte potatoes in the background. Easily the best salad potato for my money.

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I rather like the tinned peas and carrots :hehe:

For a nation of foodies they don't half eat some ****e.

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I rather like the tinned peas and carrots :hehe:

For a nation of foodies they don't half eat some ****e.

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I love the Petis Pois in jars. I'll happily eat them cold, straight from the receptacle.