of Handsmaid's Tale-style dystopia and that male oppressors are lurking around every corner waiting to pounce.
It is - not to put too fine a point on it - fùcking mental.
https://unherd.com/2019/03/the-inesc...ld/?=sideshare
of Handsmaid's Tale-style dystopia and that male oppressors are lurking around every corner waiting to pounce.
It is - not to put too fine a point on it - fùcking mental.
https://unherd.com/2019/03/the-inesc...ld/?=sideshare
Well, quite frankly, she is.Quote:
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I mean, gender-stereotyping that childcare is usually a woman's work.
I was so insulted, I had to give up reading.
And well done the Ford Focus for being so misogynistic.
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Yup. My wife bought one as well. Little did she know it's oppressing her.Quote:
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I know this is deeply cynical, but I'm pretty confident that many unattractive women nowadays claim they've been sexually assaulted in order to provide an artificial boost to their rock-bottom self-esteem.Quote:
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I mean, look at the writer of this piece. Seriously. I'm pretty sure physically grotesque women don't get touched up on public transport, yet you'll struggle to find one that claims it's never happened to them.
https://www.google.com/search?q=tany...ETZ08QRTJfcEM:
She'd raise my average :-(Quote:
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I would also imagine that she moaned about the newspaper chap smoking a cigar and he told her to stick it where the sun don't shineQuote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
Too ugly to rape, eh, m? Is that what you're saying?Quote:
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Wait until your missus finds out you said that. :shakehead:
Seriously, though, I think there's a strong element of Viz's Millie Tant with this.
Also, I'm still chuckling at her use of the simile 'like a man running over a child in the dark'. :hehe:
I had a laugh at that too.Quote:
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Her head is in a very dark, fúcked up place.
Now you mention it, stuff that Viz did as an absurd exaggeration have become reality. What is Student Grant if not Owen Jones? Millie Tant is a reasonable mirror to fourth wave feminism... sadly, Syd The Sexist died in a rain of shellfire from twitter.Quote:
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Modern Parents, too.Quote:
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Malcolm and Cressida Wright-Pratt :hehe:
It's true. Half of their content from 20 years ago wouldn't even seem exaggerated today. Yet more proof of Peter Cook's dictum that satire changes nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
It's Grim Up North London :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
She may be a nutter, but the book she's referring to got very good reviews in the ST this week and the Saturday Times last week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
The data sounds fascinating. Have a look. You might learn something.
Nah, you're alright. Better things to do than read the scion of the Safeway fortune grinding her axe for several hundred pages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
Probably because the meeja and chattering classes are obsessed with identity politics and victimisation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
It's usually the richest who are the most complainy. Most of the 'gender pay gap' campaigners are very rich women not earning quite as much as very rich men. Ornry folk are most likely to have gender parity for comparable roles.Quote:
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It's also notable that nowhere in that review does she mention anything tricky like FGM, forced marriage, grooming gangs, the hijab/niqab/burka etc, etc - y'know...really nasty actually toxic patriarchal oppression and exploitation.Quote:
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It's all about problems facing wealthy, western, middle-class feminists - because that's the target market.
Look. You may mock. But one of our younger, female mates works in a council office. She came round last summer after work, moaning about how freezing the office was now the aircons's on. Because blokes choose the setting and the male body likes it 5C colder than the female one. I explained this to her and told her to take it up with the boss.Quote:
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When in the tropics, I like the AC colder than the glw but we compromise.
This may seem trivial to you, but why should the female half of the population feel uncomfortable at work?
Why should women put up with having a 57% higher chance of death and injury in a car crash because we only use male crash test dummies?
I can't stand identity politics and victimhood. I've spent my entire adult life trying to bring people together people of all different races, nationalities, religions, castes and socio-economic states.
But the quid pro quo of that is we need understanding. So perhaps blokes need to be told about the AC temp issue and find away to compromise.
Though perhaps you think the totty should be at home instead of trying to do a job that equires them to think properly like a man?
It's simply a question of manners. If a lady in my offfice told me she was cold, i would turn the heating up or aircon down, as appropriate. That is how a gentleman behaves. And I would never, ever crash a car with a lady inside.Quote:
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Good manners. Simple.
:hehe: And what of the obverse? Where are the howls of outrage because men die younger? Are far more likely to suffer heart disease? Are far more likely to commit suicide? That young men are vastly more likely to be victims of violence? That hugely more money is spent on research and treatment of cervical and breast cancer than on prostate cancer? That white working class boys are routinely at the bottom of the pile when it comes to school performance because they have no forces lobbying for them?Quote:
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The point is we can all cherry-pick our reasons why we're victims. It's just that when (white) men do it, nobody's listening.
Couldn't agree more, C.Quote:
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But you may have noticed that not every male Britisher is a gent. Hence the need to show him the facts and make the neanderthal realise his selfishness is making all the ladies present physically uncomfortble.
Jesus Christ. If you got a similar reply to one of your posts you'd be screaming Whataboutery and Straw Men from the rooftops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
WTF has any of that got to do with the stats she's raised? If you want to write a book about that, do it.
Your reply is as stupid as a Corbynista saying "But what about Palestine" when I talk about the Chinese occupation and oppression of Tibet.
Let's make this really simple:
1. Did you know women are 57% more likely to get ****ed in a car crash?
2. Do you think this is a good thing?
3. Do you think we should do something about it if we can?
Very often, the ladies present have their shoulders and arms bare and are complaining about the AC being too cold when every other fùcker is sweltering. So who's being selfish?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
They can pop on a cardy or they can get to fùck.
No. My point is that this book is a classic exercise in victim-based rent-seeking. It creates a mentality of oppression and victimhood that simply doesn't reflect the fact that - while not perfect - the west in the early 21st century is basically the best place in history to be a woman. No ifs, no buts - it just is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
And by all means let's find ways to make things better, but let's look at everyone's problems, shall we? Not just pretend everything is hunky-dory for men while banging on about the first-world problems of enormously privileged white women.
And also, they do make female test dummies. And kiddie ones. I've seen them.
Sometimes, you’re so very Irish.Quote:
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No English gentleman would treat a lady thus. Shame on you, thick Paddy
Right. So next time you bring up a topic about some problem you care about, I should say, "ah but what about the Delhi steet kids" and we should just consider every problem in the world together?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Straw man whataboutery, B.
And you didn't answer my 3 questions. I know they now have all 3 dummies. The point is that the rules were originally made on tests based just on men.
As I said, I found the research fascinating, and I detest ID politics at least as much as you do. In fact, I almost certainly hate it a damn sight more as my entire adult life has been about trying to show that we are all equals.
But you're obsession with modern, leftwing culture means you are determined to see this book solely through this prism and as such, given your culture wars absolutism, this book is part of the enemy camp's armoury.
Neither you nor I like ID politics. Would you support a study about knife crime and gang culture which looked at why it's almost exclusively black kids and howwe should fix it? Cos I would, despite that being by your definition "identity politcs."
Yes, it a political issue looked at in terms of one specific ethnic group. But it's not about creating division and a hieracrhy of victimhood. It's about stopping the problems that cause these differences.
This book isn't about creating victimhood. It's about trying to find what is wrong, why and doing something about it.
The fact that this is about white middle class women in no way invalidates this any more than my beloved making films exclusively about marginalised, brown skinned Asians invalidates her work.
But by your hippy "let's look at everyone's problems together" idiocy, my missus should then have to make half the film about middle class white bints and this bint would have to write half her book about young boys living on the streets of iDelhi.
Which is a pathetic argument.
I know you're just trying to play a character but you normally don't push it so far that the character collapses under the weight of its own contradictions.
No-one is allowed to write a book about one subject in isolation. Dear God.
I, for one, would never suggest a woman puts on more clothes in a place of workQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Sir C "And I would never, ever crash a car with a lady inside."
Message reported to Peter Shilton
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It was you, wasn't it?
Right. So next time you bring up a topic about some problem you care about, I should say, "ah but what about the Delhi steet kids" and we should just consider every problem in the world together?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Straw man whataboutery, B.
And you didn't answer my 3 questions. I know they now have all 3 dummies. The point is that the rules were originally made on tests based just on men.
As I said, I found the research fascinating, and I detest ID politics at least as much as you do. In fact, I almost certainly hate it a damn sight more as my entire adult life has been about trying to show that we are all equals.
But you're obsession with modern, leftwing culture means you are determined to see this book solely through this prism and as such, given your culture wars absolutism, this book is part of the enemy camp's armoury.
Neither you nor I like ID politics. Would you support a study about knife crime and gang culture which looked at why it's almost exclusively black kids and howwe should fix it? Cos I would, despite that being by your definition "identity politcs."
Yes, it a political issue looked at in terms of one specific ethnic group. But it's not about creating division and a hieracrhy of victimhood. It's about stopping the problems that cause these differences.
This book isn't about creating victimhood. It's about trying to find what is wrong, why and doing something about it.
The fact that this is about white middle class women in no way invalidates this any more than my beloved making films exclusively about marginalised, brown skinned Asians invalidates her work.
But by your hippy "let's look at everyone's problems together" idiocy, my missus should then have to make half the film about middle class white bints and this bint would have to write half her book about young boys living on the streets of iDelhi.
Which is a pathetic argument.
I know you're just trying to play a character but you normally don't push it so far that the character collapses under the weight of its own contradictions.
No-one is allowed to write a book about one subject in isolation. Dear God.
:rolleyes: Madonn' ..
https://abcnews.go.com/International...raped-61651628
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Impossible to judge that case without getting a proper look at her, tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
Well if one of the pretty little things where I work starts to shiver and tremble I offer them my coat and sometimes even my sweater. I'll even go so far as a hug to warm them up ( with a crafty squeeze of the bottom too which, contrary to popular belief, most of them don't really mind at all).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Her victim of sexual assault claim made meQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
raise an eyebrow of disbelief but then she goes on to defend Hillary Clinton. Oh the irony in that. The author is beyond retarded, a clueless, ill informed basket case.
Believe all women, B! Including the ones on that all-female panel.
Complicated, innit :-\
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