My brain is friggin melting after all the sh!t that went down today.

Completely wiped the floor with the Trump government. Trump I think will survive, but that's about it.

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Completely wiped the floor with the Trump government. Trump I think will survive, but that's about it.

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You're going to have to hold yer horses a little there, Hank. It's all still a big nothingburger.

But since the news business is on its knees and your sort are the only ones still tuning in to CNN, even a nothingburger is better than nothing at all, so to speak. Manna from heaven, it ain't, though. Anyway, not yet.

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You're going to have to hold yer horses a little there, Hank. It's all still a big nothingburger.

But since the news business is on its knees and your sort are the only ones still tuning in to CNN, even a nothingburger is better than nothing at all, so to speak. Manna from heaven, it ain't, though. Anyway, not yet.

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I for one couldn't give a flying fùck, r. Although granted I'm not a Yanqui and have no skin in the game.

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I for one couldn't give a flying fùck, r. Although granted I'm not a Yanqui and have no skin in the game.

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I never go to the office nowadays so this sort of thing is my only source of politics. I find it all terribly compelling :-(

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I never go to the office nowadays so this sort of thing is my only source of politics. I find it all terribly compelling :-(

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I'm struck by what appears to be the widespread assumption that Russians have acquired magical powers in recent years to rig elections. When did this happen? Is Ivan now magically competent at such things?

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I'm struck by what appears to be the widespread assumption that Russians have acquired magical powers in recent years to rig elections. When did this happen? Is Ivan now magically competent at such things?

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Oh, it's nothing new; people have always tried it on, and often succeeded too. Anyway, at least achieved their desired result.

Politics is a dirty business, always has been.

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I'm struck by what appears to be the widespread assumption that Russians have acquired magical powers in recent years to rig elections. When did this happen? Is Ivan now magically competent at such things?

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Don't dismiss it b. Russia being a mafiocracy means that their hackers can operate without fear of prosecution.. They are, after all, doing Godfather Putin's will. Politicians freed from the nuisance of having to win elections fairly and squarely would consider this kind of thing small beer.

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You're going to have to hold yer horses a little there, Hank. It's all still a big nothingburger.

But since the news business is on its knees and your sort are the only ones still tuning in to CNN, even a nothingburger is better than nothing at all, so to speak. Manna from heaven, it ain't, though. Anyway, not yet.

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You're echoing talking points of Fox News, as is your right. Laura Ingraham: Nothing Burger. Redgumamo: Nothing Burger. The speculation is that Papadopoulos wore a wire, which is pretty cool. He's been "flipped." Also very funny and delectable.

We are going to have anarcho-syndicalists in the White House come 2018. :rubhands:

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You're echoing talking points of Fox News, as is your right. Laura Ingraham: Nothing Burger. Redgumamo: Nothing Burger. The speculation is that Papadopoulos wore a wire, which is pretty cool. He's been "flipped." Also very funny and delectable.

We are going to have anarcho-syndicalists in the White House come 2018. :rubhands:

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It was the CNN guy that first said it. Anyway, most famously used it in this context. Van Jones?

They got nothing from Pap anyway. Plenty of collusion, of course (that's his job after all), but crucially, so far no conspiracy that could be considered illegal. Hence the piffling, minor charges.

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It was the CNN guy that first said it. Anyway, most famously used it in this context. Van Jones?

They got nothing from Pap anyway. Plenty of collusion, of course (that's his job after all), but crucially, so far no conspiracy that could be considered illegal. Hence the piffling, minor charges.

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Dude, you're living in a completely different universe. Money laundering, twelve counts, for Manafort. How would you know they got nothing from Pap? The charges suggest that he's collaborating with the authorities. Van Jones did not coin the meme or phrase, nothingburger. It predates his current eminence. Ingraham used the term though in this present content.