now.
who's out the door?
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now.
who's out the door?
OK, this is also provided with the understanding we would replace these with betterQuote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
Cech
Monreal
Per
Gabriel
Coq
Walcott
Others I would be meh about, but I feel we can improve on all of them quite easily
http://www.arsenal.com/first-team/playersQuote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
:nod: That's why I stuck with who's out the door. No point listing specific players to bring in otherwise it get's a bit silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
Or I could say. Who do you keep from the current batch to build on.
I hope Wenger doesn't see this post 71 Guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by 71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat
There is no need to be so cruel.
RamseyQuote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
Wilshere
Jenkinson
Debuchy
Possibly Theo or Ox but probably neither.
With Ozil and Sanchez probably going that makes enough space and income. Time to build a new midfield squad and a new forward.
(If I get rid of any more British players do I have to sign more? I really don't want to)
It's ok Gibbs is on the books for life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
I am surprised City have never tried to sign hum they like our full backs.
Cech?? Why on earth.....?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
Out on day one, Ozil and Sanchez. They've been offered contracts and don't want to sign them, so they can fúck off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
The rest are fine. We'll be fine.
With those 2 free you can get Cesc back home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Because I'm the manager....Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
:nod: The dream midfield of Cazorla, Cesc and Ramsey. :champions:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
I'd also bin Cech, actually. He's finnish.
:hehe: Only been in the job 60 seconds Pokster Out!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
Cesc wanted to leave so he can **** off as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
I signed a 4 yr contract on £5m a yr.... happy to be sackedQuote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
:sigh: It was his destiny to go home for a while. The Gods, not Cesc, decreed this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
So looking back if Ozil buggers off. Should we have tried to have got Cesc back instead?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
OF COURSE WE SHOULD HAVE GOT CESC BACK!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
He is the soul and heartbeat of our club, f. Our captain. Our Nino.
When he was only 17 he was better than Roy Keane for Christ's sake.
That's Jussi Jääskeläinen, you're thinking off :threeumlautname:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Anyone who refuses to accept Our Lord Jesus Christ as his Saviour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
Lucas and PerezQuote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
Would you also instruct the team to go out and grab the other side by the pussy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Ramsey, Coquelin, Jenkinson, Gabriel and Walcott. Probably Giroud as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
This used to annoy me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antti_Niemi_(footballer)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antti_Niemi_(ice_hockey)
Both goalies.
Be great if Niemi was Finnish for Stopper or something. We used to get connected to Niemi every fracking week at one pointQuote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
:nod: But it turned out that Wenger was Anti Niemi :hide:Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Is that time must dash.
and Niemi means Peninsula. I had to check.
:nod: Big league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
The first task is to consolidate your power base, by getting rid of potential rivals for your job. So Bould, Boro, Mickey Pearce, the chap who coaches the ladies team and Per. All out the door on day one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
The actual job of organising the players looks to be fairly straight forward. Not quite sure why Arsene makes such a drama out of it. :shrug:
Right. Especially as clubs nowadays employ a battalion of professional specialist assistants (and, in our case, ex-British Lions prop forwards!?) to do all the *real* work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Trent
Managers no longer "manage", so much as "preside".
Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
Indeed. Let the experts handle the finer details on the playing side. As manager, I think keeping Kronke onside is your main objective. You'd need to keep an eye on Gazidis in this regard. Make sure he doesn't try to get involved too much. Or, try to appoint a director of football who might challenge you. As long as you stay on top of those issues. I see no reason why a good 10-12 year spell in charge
wouldn't be possible.
I'd add Ramsey to that list and Carzola - Ramsay because he's only ever looked quality for a couple of months a couple of years ago, Carzola because he's now an injury liabilityQuote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
No one should be out of the door immediately.
Ozil and Sanchez are not signing contracts so they will be sold. Replacing Sanchez and Ozil would the be the first challenge. The powers that be are responsible for getting the best money for them.
I could argue that time on the training pitch to turn essentially good players into a functioning unit would be job two. Once you have worked out that some of these players are not capable of playing the manager's game, then you think about moving them on.
:nod: Plenty of room for developing/improving players in the squad. Ramsey and Ox spring to mind. Maybe even Gibbs could benefit from a different type of manager? Look at what Conte has done with Victor Moses this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alberto Balsam Rodriguez
The question should be, 'who doesn't want to stay?'. Those that feel like they're banging their heads against the wall. ie, the better players. All the wasters, those on huge wages, years on contract still but, can't be arsed to put in 100% every game, will be happy(ish) as things are.
I feel so sad that the situation has finally come to what we have seen coming for some years. AW has been an honorable and truly dedicated manager. He must be in a pretty bad place right now and either we don't have the players that can produce, or we have the players that AW can't motivate. It pisses me off big time when you we see all those jolly pictures put out on the club's web site, of the players having such a great time at London Colney on training days. As if they haven't a care in the world.
Sad days. :-(
:nod: - Conte has certainly pepped up the Chelsea team this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Trent
You sold yourself short P. That other hopeless **** was on 8!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
Out
Cech - damaged goods when we bought him
Ospina or Chesney - if Chesney wants to come back then it's Ospina…if he doesn't then Ospina can stay
Debuchy - just let him go
Mertersacker - same as debuchy
Ramsey - Arsenal career ended vs Watford
Wilshere - too injury prone & attitude won't change
Walcott - All he's done in 10 years at Arsenal is grown a beard
Ozil - he was only bought to appease the fans…services no longer required
Giroud - same as Ospina…time to freshen up this department
Skating on thin ice but worth 2nd chances
Gibbs - to be fair the lad hasn't had much playing time and Monreal is due an injury
Callum - lets see what he learnt on loan…still time for him to mature as player
Gabriel - probably lacking confidence - solid player and worth 1 more season
Jenkinson - same as Gabriel but maybe we send him out on loan
More or Less Gone
Santi - will expect him to fade out of existence like Arteta did…injuries have been cruel to him.
Would definitely get Kasper Schmicheal in as our new no1 and blow the rest on 1 superstar player like Griezemann.
Also would play a 3-5-2.
with Holding, Mustafi and Koscielny as the back 3.
Bellerin and Gibbs as speedy marauding wing backs
Elneny and Xhaka holding in midfield and then any combination of 3 from the following - Ox, Lucas, Welbeck, Griezemann and Alexis.
quite line Ox and Lucas holding with Griezemann up front...let's **** off Alexis a bit....
British players are alright, I think, if they actually *are* British players and not merely British players because their passport says so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
A midget midfielder like Wilshere, for example, is never going to be of any real use to us unless he somehow turns into Billy Bremner or Dennis Wise, or even David Batty. These men ought to be his ideal, not Xavi or Verratti.