Sir C, I took the GLW to Joy Kitchen in Orpington on Friday night

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07-22-2019, 10:38 AM
Maravilloso Marvo

Sir C, I took the GLW to Joy Kitchen in Orpington on Friday night

They sat us on a table for 2 and after we ordered moved us to a table for 4... I think you know you have ordered well when that happens.

Agree with you that the roti canai was excellent, really hit the spot. I had the nasi goreng which was fine, but I think they had toned it down somewhat for the british market. I recall it having much more punch in Bali.

They only had 3-4 tables in on a Friday night and not many takeaways as far as I could tell which is not a promising sign for them as a business. I would suggest going back soon before they go out of business if you like it.
07-22-2019, 10:47 AM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Maravilloso Marvo

They sat us on a table for 2 and after we ordered moved us to a table for 4... I think you know you have ordered well when that happens.

Agree with you that the roti canai was excellent, really hit the spot. I had the nasi goreng which was fine, but I think they had toned it down somewhat for the british market. I recall it having much more punch in Bali.

They only had 3-4 tables in on a Friday night and not many takeaways as far as I could tell which is not a promising sign for them as a business. I would suggest going back soon before they go out of business if you like it.

I must say I tend to just use it for the roti canai recently. I agree, it's never busy enough to look like a healthy business is it? It would be a shame if it failed, I think they've tried really hard on alimited budget.
07-22-2019, 02:00 PM
Maravilloso Marvo

There was a rather trendy modern cosmopolitan looking Indian a few shops down that looked like it had been professionally designed, which for a high street Indian is very unusual. It actually took me a few minutes of looking at the menu to work out exactly what cuisine it was. This place was buzzing with atmosphere, which made me quite sad for the Malaysians a few doors back as they have no chance of competing regardless of the quality of food.
07-22-2019, 02:09 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Maravilloso Marvo

There was a rather trendy modern cosmopolitan looking Indian a few shops down that looked like it had been professionally designed, which for a high street Indian is very unusual. It actually took me a few minutes of looking at the menu to work out exactly what cuisine it was. This place was buzzing with atmosphere, which made me quite sad for the Malaysians a few doors back as they have no chance of competing regardless of the quality of food.

Yes. I haven't tried that Indian, but it certainly looks tempting.

If Orpington is belssed with anything, it's Chinesers. Xi'an is well known, of course, but Parkside offers a seperate menu of authentic chinese food alongside the usual UK restaurant favourites, King Palace has been reliable for years and then there's Joy Kitchen for your Malay and Indonesian requirements. Good timez, I think you'll agree.
07-22-2019, 02:20 PM
Burney

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Yes. I haven't tried that Indian, but it certainly looks tempting.

If Orpington is belssed with anything, it's Chinesers. Xi'an is well known, of course, but Parkside offers a seperate menu of authentic chinese food alongside the usual UK restaurant favourites, King Palace has been reliable for years and then there's Joy Kitchen for your Malay and Indonesian requirements. Good timez, I think you'll agree.

I'm told that that Atul Kochhar place in Petts Wood is really very good. I never had any money when I was living there (for obvious reasons), so never went. However, those who did tell me good things.
07-22-2019, 02:21 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Burney

I'm told that that Atul Kochhar place in Petts Wood is really very good. I never had any money when I was living there (for obvious reasons), so never went. However, those who did tell me good things.

I keep meaning to try it but I keep forgetting.
07-22-2019, 02:25 PM
Burney

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I keep meaning to try it but I keep forgetting.

I must admit I've always felt a certain scepticism about 'fine dining' Indian food. I don't know why. Sheer prejudice, I suppose.
07-22-2019, 02:34 PM
Maravilloso Marvo

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Originally Posted by Burney

I'm told that that Atul Kochhar place in Petts Wood is really very good. I never had any money when I was living there (for obvious reasons), so never went. However, those who did tell me good things.

http://www.awimb.com/showthread.php?...highlight=atul

I have been there, it is very good. Though it does seem strange to be paying more London prices when you're clearly in Kent.
07-22-2019, 02:35 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Burney

I must admit I've always felt a certain scepticism about 'fine dining' Indian food. I don't know why. Sheer prejudice, I suppose.

I tend to agree. When I want an Indian I want an Indian, not some gussied up different thing. I stumbled across an absolutely fantastic Indian in Cambridge recently; the food was absolutely standard but you could tell that it was freshly prepared and loaded with fresh herbs - they had just taken a little care, and that was the difference that worked for me.

Having said all that, I'm going to A Wong on Saturday and I'm excited because I love it so much. It may be my favourite restaurant in London at the moment... and that's properly Michelined up. (I ppreciate that it isn't Indian. But still.)
07-22-2019, 02:38 PM
Maravilloso Marvo

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Originally Posted by Burney

I must admit I've always felt a certain scepticism about 'fine dining' Indian food. I don't know why. Sheer prejudice, I suppose.

I think they are still quite happy for you to order 20 poppadoms and a pint of Kingfisher when you get in and then have some clever device to sweep the crumbs from the tablecloth whilst thankfully turning a blind eye to the red stains on their white tablecloths.
07-22-2019, 02:44 PM
Maravilloso Marvo

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Originally Posted by Sir C

I tend to agree. When I want an Indian I want an Indian, not some gussied up different thing. I stumbled across an absolutely fantastic Indian in Cambridge recently; the food was absolutely standard but you could tell that it was freshly prepared and loaded with fresh herbs - they had just taken a little care, and that was the difference that worked for me.

Having said all that, I'm going to A Wong on Saturday and I'm excited because I love it so much. It may be my favourite restaurant in London at the moment... and that's properly Michelined up. (I ppreciate that it isn't Indian. But still.)

Darbaar in the City is another quite good one. I went with clients though so it was quite strange to have red wine and not order enough poppadoms for the whole restaurant.
07-22-2019, 02:46 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Maravilloso Marvo

I think they are still quite happy for you to order 20 poppadoms and a pint of Kingfisher when you get in and then have some clever device to sweep the crumbs from the tablecloth whilst thankfully turning a blind eye to the red stains on their white tablecloths.

Do you know what I like on my poppadoms, m? Lime pickle. BUT, sometimes I prefer the little salad of tomato and onion and coriander.

Mango chutney can do one.
07-22-2019, 02:47 PM
Peter

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Yes. I haven't tried that Indian, but it certainly looks tempting.

If Orpington is belssed with anything, it's Chinesers. Xi'an is well known, of course, but Parkside offers a seperate menu of authentic chinese food alongside the usual UK restaurant favourites, King Palace has been reliable for years and then there's Joy Kitchen for your Malay and Indonesian requirements. Good timez, I think you'll agree.

I went to a banana tree in Islington last week (wasn't my choice) and had the Beef Rendang. I have to say it was actually better than any of those I've had in Malaysia. Not terribly authentic but certainly more edible.
07-22-2019, 02:48 PM
Sir C

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I went to a banana tree in Islington last week (wasn't my choice) and had the Beef Rendang. I have to say it was actually better than any of those I've had in Malaysia. Not terribly authentic but certainly more edible.

Banana Tree, you say? And do they serve the roti canai in this tree?
07-22-2019, 02:50 PM
Herbert Augustus Chapman

For obvious reasons b? Are we to believe you were once a man of straw?

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Originally Posted by Burney

I'm told that that Atul Kochhar place in Petts Wood is really very good. I never had any money when I was living there (for obvious reasons), so never went. However, those who did tell me good things.

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07-22-2019, 02:50 PM
Burney

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Do you know what I like on my poppadoms, m? Lime pickle. BUT, sometimes I prefer the little salad of tomato and onion and coriander.

Mango chutney can do one.

Mango chutney is just jam. And putting jam on poppadoms is madness. Love a bit of Lime Pickle. Brinjal pickle's good, too.

I do retain a dirty liking for the sweetish/minty orange/yellow/green yoghurt gloop, however.
07-22-2019, 02:53 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Burney

Mango chutney is just jam. And putting jam on poppadoms is madness. Love a bit of Lime Pickle. Brinjal pickle's good, too.

I do retain a dirty liking for the sweetish/minty orange/yellow/green yoghurt gloop, however.

Gosh yes, that yoghurty thing isn't bad, actually.

I made dahl makhani yesterday. I did it in a Dutch oven over charcoal. Cooked it for 8 hours. Thought I could get that smoky charcoal quality into it, like it had been cooked ina village in the Punjab.

It was shít.
07-22-2019, 02:53 PM
Burney

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Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman

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I was living in this place because I had split up with my former partner and was renting a flat there. Between the mortgage on the old place and the rent on the flat, there wasn't much left for slap-up feeds.
07-22-2019, 02:56 PM
Burney

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Gosh yes, that yoghurty thing isn't bad, actually.

I made dahl makhani yesterday. I did it in a Dutch oven over charcoal. Cooked it for 8 hours. Thought I could get that smoky charcoal quality into it, like it had been cooked ina village in the Punjab.

It was shít.

:hehe: 'Dutch oven'

Do you even cook indoors anymore? I made an absolutely lovely off-the-cuff fish soup/stew for supper last night. Bit of dill, fish stock, cream, concasse tomatoes, leeks, onions and carrots. Plus some bits of monkfish, cod loin and prawns. Marvellous.

I also have a rather nice recipe for Spanish ribs with a honey and sherry coating, but you'd probably sneer since I cook them in an oven.
07-22-2019, 03:02 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Burney

:hehe: 'Dutch oven'

Do you even cook indoors anymore? I made an absolutely lovely off-the-cuff fish soup/stew for supper last night. Bit of dill, fish stock, cream, concasse tomatoes, leeks, onions and carrots. Plus some bits of monkfish, cod loin and prawns. Marvellous.

I also have a rather nice recipe for Spanish ribs with a honey and sherry coating, but you'd probably sneer since I cook them in an oven.

Cast iron pot. You know the drill.

I use the barbecue if the weather's good most of the time. Those ribs of yours could easily go in the oven but the babecue will just give them a gnat's cóck of something nicer. And it's nice to be outside. Tonight I will do lamb rump on boulangere potatoes for which I need an oven running at 200 degrees, so I'll just fire up the Kamado. Tomorrow I'm doing steaks, so guess what? Kamado. Wednesday will see me try a chicken shawarma recipe I found recently... over charcoal, naturally.
07-22-2019, 03:13 PM
Burney

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Cast iron pot. You know the drill.

I use the barbecue if the weather's good most of the time. Those ribs of yours could easily go in the oven but the babecue will just give them a gnat's cóck of something nicer. And it's nice to be outside. Tonight I will do lamb rump on boulangere potatoes for which I need an oven running at 200 degrees, so I'll just fire up the Kamado. Tomorrow I'm doing steaks, so guess what? Kamado. Wednesday will see me try a chicken shawarma recipe I found recently... over charcoal, naturally.

I know it's a cast iron pot, but it's also the term for when you fart in bed and force your partner's head under the covers. :hehe:
07-22-2019, 03:26 PM
Peter

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Banana Tree, you say? And do they serve the roti canai in this tree?

No. it's a mish mash of Malay, Indonesian and Thai 'street food'.... didn't particularly remind me of anything I've had in Malaysia. I don't think you'd like it much.

Tiger beer is **** :(
07-22-2019, 03:33 PM
Burney

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Originally Posted by Peter

No. it's a mish mash of Malay, Indonesian and Thai 'street food'.... didn't particularly remind me of anything I've had in Malaysia. I don't think you'd like it much.

Tiger beer is **** :(

The sooner everyone gets over 'street food' the better. Food is only nice if you're sat down comfy and have a plate to catch the drips.
07-22-2019, 03:36 PM
IUFG

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Originally Posted by Burney

The sooner everyone gets over 'street food' the better. Food is only nice if you're sat down comfy and have a plate to catch the drips.

:nono: There are few finer dining experiences than being pissed up and having grease falling from your doner onto your shirt :nod:
07-22-2019, 03:38 PM
Burney

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Originally Posted by IUFG

:nono: There are few finer dining experiences than being pissed up and having grease falling from your doner onto your shirt :nod:

The last time I ate a doner on the walk between the station and home, I had to shower the minute I got in. The missus thought I'd been playing away or something and I had to explain that no, it was just that I was covered in stench and lamb grease.
07-22-2019, 03:39 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Burney

The sooner everyone gets over 'street food' the better. Food is only nice if you're sat down comfy and have a plate to catch the drips.

Thai street food generally comes with a nice table and chairs. :shrug:

It helps if you're 3' 6", naturally.
07-22-2019, 03:42 PM
Burney

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Thai street food generally comes with a nice table and chairs. :shrug:

It helps if you're 3' 6", naturally.

Then that's fine. Good old Johnny Thailander is plainly an eminently sensible chap. No, it's these pop-ups and 'street food festivals' that are the target of my ire. Handing a chap a styrofoam carton filled with curry and then expecting him to eat it with a plastic fork while standing in a busy London street is no way to carry on imo.
07-22-2019, 03:47 PM
Sir C

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Originally Posted by Burney

Then that's fine. Good old Johnny Thailander is plainly an eminently sensible chap. No, it's these pop-ups and 'street food festivals' that are the target of my ire. Handing a chap a styrofoam carton filled with curry and then expecting him to eat it with a plastic fork while standing in a busy London street is no way to carry on imo.

Fair one b, fair one.
07-22-2019, 03:50 PM
Burney

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Fair one b, fair one.

Borough Market is full of people trying to eat things entirely unsuited to being eaten while standing up in a busy environment. I remember watching a group of tourists trying to eat laksa from flimsy plastic bowls while being repeatedly jostled. It was inadvertently hilarious.
07-22-2019, 04:03 PM
WES

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Gosh yes, that yoghurty thing isn't bad, actually.

I made dahl makhani yesterday. I did it in a Dutch oven over charcoal. Cooked it for 8 hours. Thought I could get that smoky charcoal quality into it, like it had been cooked ina village in the Punjab.

It was shít.

Good lord. Only on Saturday have I returned from Bangalore where I had the most wonderful dahl makhani (quite my favourite Indian dish) here:

http://dhaba1986.com/

Yummy :eat:

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