in order for us to get excited about the possibility of winning this test? :rubchin:
in order for us to get excited about the possibility of winning this test? :rubchin:
You jinxed it....
Oops :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony C
I won't ask the next question then. :-)
I was tempted to ask the same question. One more and I assume they are fúcked?Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
Surely if we get to the end of play with 7 wickets in hand and need less than 200 we'd be favourites?
No way, we have never chased this many, we have a habbit of losing lots of wickets quickly. I would sughgest we would need to get less than 100 and have lots of wickets left for us to be fave's. I predict we lose by over 100Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
Not sure as obviously the batting quality is diluted as you go down the order so an average of 30 per batter is quite high given the stakes etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
Obviously you are greatly aided by one of your better chaps having some *******s and getting an individually high score.
I expect a more experienced Cricket follower would be better placed here.
They’ve be hovering around 10/1 for most of today...so a 9% chance.
Since Australia burnt their reviews England are now 6/1 or a 14% chance.
If they get through today with no more wickets I think they would be around about a 3/1 to 7/2 chance or ie 22% to 25% chance.
Which is fair given a collapse can happen at any moment.
Around 320-330 odd.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
There is virtually no chance whatsoever of this happening. It is perfectly gettable, the wicket is ok. It would require a combination of skill, patience and incredible discipline and there is not one player in this England side who has that.
I am quite happy that they have even made some sort of a game of it.
Good to see that there are multiple sports that you can suck the joy out of, Peter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Even at this festive time of year. :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by World's End Stella
Oh I love cricket, dont get me wrong. And this is tremendously exciting.
I'm refusing even to enter into any speculation on the subject as I am utterly outraged by England prickteasing us like this rather than just rolling over straight away as they're supposed to. How dare they fück us about like this? They're obviously going to lose, but are showing us glimmers of hope just to be dicks. :furious:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Come on, b. We want to see a bit of fight. One of the things that seriously ****S ME OFF about these guys is that in lost causes they dont even have the professional pride to bat for their own average. I would happily bat all day in a losing cause for 50 odd not out. I would bloody enjoy it as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
If you cant even bat selfishly what is the world coming to?
Making it go into a last day so to generate extra money for the ground and the Aussie cricket board... sad seens bQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
How much longer does play go on today/tonight?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
England now 4/1...20% chance.
Looking at the market they were 80/1 at one point so a moral victory of sorts
Oh, I agree. The rabbit-in-the-headlights batting collapse has just become so customary that I sort of resent it when they actually put up a fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Fear not, though. We'll get through tonight, lose an early one tomorrow and collapse like a house of cards. All done just after lunchtime, I reckon.
I have a sneaky feeling the collapse will come tonight. Any minute, in fact. Root is going to get out very, very soon. He really pisses me off, much more than any of the others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
I can see Root scoring 150 and England winning. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Merry Christmas everyone! :wave:
England down to 2/1...straight up 33.34% to win o:
Malan goooone 169/4
10 minutes left...no nigh****chman.
Presumably an English win here all lies with the lad Root.
England aren't going to win, sw. Put this thought from your mind. This sort of thing simply does not happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
Finish the day at 7/2...22.5% chance to win.
England will win if Root can build partnerships with Woakes, Moooooen and Bairstow.
He had to avoid getting out and those 3 muppets have to stick with him.
Yes, it seems so.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
Tremendous stuff. What time UK times does it start? England nailed on to win now, I think. :cloud9:
Well you see it is easy for me to postulate as I have no allegiance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Your negative psychology has been noted however, we both know in sport it is largely the hope that kills. Actually perhaps negative is unfair, realistic a better word as that would be how I view Arsenal and our seasons. I will never flirt with silly notions such as League success.
The danger man is Lyon to the lefties. Almost tempting to drop Moeen down further to virtually take Lyon out of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony C
Mind you, why am I even speculating? It's not going to happen.
Australia are 1/4 to win...suppose if you have deep pockets you won’t find a bank paying that sort of interest.
Root will be out early tomorrow playing a loose shot to a ball he could have left. Because he 'likes to feel bat on ball'....which is basically a technical term for utter ****.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
It's not negative psychology so much as experience, sw. I have watched too much test cricket to believe in this possibility. Such a win is a once-in-a-decade eventuality. There is a reason that the highest score ever made to win in a test at Adelaide is 315. The psychology, the wicket, the history and the odds are stacked against an England win.Quote:
Originally Posted by SWv2
As is the fact that all the batsmen to come have a habit of chucking their wicket out the window as soon as you squeeze the scoring. Malan was a big hope here as he has shown a fair bit of discipline. With him gone wickets will fall early tomorrow and that is pretty much the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
:nod: Even more annoying is that any - to use the buzz word of the day - momentum we get from this resurgence is likely to be blown away in Perth if the wicket is remotely quick (although it hasn't been in recent years). *******sQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Pretty incredible England have a decent chance of levelling the series and perhaps even winning it.
If Smith had just enforced the follow on this game would’ve been over with the series completely in the bag.
Very true, t. He was protecting his quicks, which is understandable given how injury prone they all are. That was always a risk and they probably should have picked Sayers as a horses for courses selection on his home ground (should have picked another bowling option at 6 as well, but I guess Marsh has justified his place for now).Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony C
Think Lyon will make the difference tomorrow, but if one of the quicks was to break down ...
I may regret saying this but isnt the massive advantage of bowling in the final session more on england's side? Coupling the fact that our bowlers are a little toothless when the ball isnt swinging and their batsmen are pretty ****e when it is? I am not sure it makes THAT much difference when Australia bowl. Their raw pace and hostility is a problem all day and we didnt look in much more trouble this evening than in earlier in the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
All over by 6-30 Uk time tomorrow imo, couple of early wickets and then we lose by 100Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
I doubt the final session will come into play tomorrow anyway p, but yes, you are probably right (hence I am surprised they didn't pick Sayers to exploit the conditions).Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Blimey - you think we'll last a session. Not like you to be an optimistQuote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
I want to go on record as saying that England will win tomorrow.
I shall wake up, open my advent calendar, look at the result and think to myself 'just another sport I am an expert on'. :cloud9: