Does this mean the club is now run by AFTV? I was no more up for MA8 than most (I

wanted AW to stay) but at least the club had a plan, and he has worked under 2 greats and could see where AW was going wrong compared to Pep.

But then AFTV put out two "shows" with their chief WengerOuters slagging off MA8. {For the first time, I watched them, both, yesterday, simply from Schadenfreude - ha, ha, you killed AW and got MA.}

But they keep saying "If this goes wrong it's on your head Gazidis"

So the club bottles it?

WTF?

Imagine what AFTV - after a season of Rioch Out banners - would have said in 1996. I dun wan no Frog from Japan, blud.

Fück 'em. The Kronke years were previously just tragic. They are now farcical.

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wanted AW to stay) but at least the club had a plan, and he has worked under 2 greats and could see where AW was going wrong compared to Pep.

But then AFTV put out two "shows" with their chief WengerOuters slagging off MA8. {For the first time, I watched them, both, yesterday, simply from Schadenfreude - ha, ha, you killed AW and got MA.}

But they keep saying "If this goes wrong it's on your head Gazidis"

So the club bottles it?

WTF?

Imagine what AFTV - after a season of Rioch Out banners - would have said in 1996. I dun wan no Frog from Japan, blud.

Fück 'em. The Kronke years were previously just tragic. They are now farcical.

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No, it doesn't - hope this helps

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Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult

wanted AW to stay) but at least the club had a plan, and he has worked under 2 greats and could see where AW was going wrong compared to Pep.

But then AFTV put out two "shows" with their chief WengerOuters slagging off MA8. {For the first time, I watched them, both, yesterday, simply from Schadenfreude - ha, ha, you killed AW and got MA.}

But they keep saying "If this goes wrong it's on your head Gazidis"

So the club bottles it?

WTF?

Imagine what AFTV - after a season of Rioch Out banners - would have said in 1996. I dun wan no Frog from Japan, blud.

Fück 'em. The Kronke years were previously just tragic. They are now farcical.

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You think the decision to appoint Emery instead of Arteta was made by the board in response to some lunatics shouting on the internet? You may be right, of course, but it seems highly unlikely to me. The directors are running a multi-million pound business; I'm far from convinced they would pander to the lunatic fringe.

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No, it doesn't - hope this helps

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Genuine question.

Then why were all the proper journos saying it was gonna be MA8 - i.e. back page of the Times and they generally wait for done deals - and then this last minute change?

You really don't think they bottled it and switched for the biggest name they could get this week? That they planned this all along and MA8 in London was just cover for us getting Dick Emery?

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Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult

wanted AW to stay) but at least the club had a plan, and he has worked under 2 greats and could see where AW was going wrong compared to Pep.

But then AFTV put out two "shows" with their chief WengerOuters slagging off MA8. {For the first time, I watched them, both, yesterday, simply from Schadenfreude - ha, ha, you killed AW and got MA.}

But they keep saying "If this goes wrong it's on your head Gazidis"

So the club bottles it?

WTF?

Imagine what AFTV - after a season of Rioch Out banners - would have said in 1996. I dun wan no Frog from Japan, blud.

Fück 'em. The Kronke years were previously just tragic. They are now farcical.

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Certainly someone at AFTV may have received a tip from the stable cat, I suppose. Probably no more than that.

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You think the decision to appoint Emery instead of Arteta was made by the board in response to some lunatics shouting on the internet? You may be right, of course, but it seems highly unlikely to me. The directors are running a multi-million pound business; I'm far from convinced they would pander to the lunatic fringe.

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So all this interest in MA8 wasn't genuine?

NB - lunatics shouting on the internet and their banners led to lots of empty seats that eventually cost us AW.

It's the decade of shouting on the internet. You think the board would have denied AW his final year were it not for the loonies on the web?

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So all this interest in MA8 wasn't genuine?

NB - lunatics shouting on the internet and their banners led to lots of empty seats that eventually cost us AW.

It's the decade of shouting on the internet. You think the board would have denied AW his final year were it not for the loonies on the web?

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I have no doubt that their interest in Arteta was genuine, but that's what an interview process is about, isn't it? You interview candidates in whom you're interested, then make your choice from amongst them. I must say, it all looks rather normal to me.

You don't think that perhaps some journalists got a bit carried away with the Arteta story and jumped the gun?

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Genuine question.

Then why were all the proper journos saying it was gonna be MA8 - i.e. back page of the Times and they generally wait for done deals - and then this last minute change?

You really don't think they bottled it and switched for the biggest name they could get this week? That they planned this all along and MA8 in London was just cover for us getting Dick Emery?

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:hehe: Sorry genuinely stupid question. Papers jumped the gun - Emery has always been in the frame and they only got to interview him recently

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Genuine question.

Then why were all the proper journos saying it was gonna be MA8 - i.e. back page of the Times and they generally wait for done deals - and then this last minute change?

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according to the press, we were going to get Cruyff or Venables before AW suddenly popped up, iirc

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Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult

Genuine question.

Then why were all the proper journos saying it was gonna be MA8 - i.e. back page of the Times and they generally wait for done deals - and then this last minute change?

You really don't think they bottled it and switched for the biggest name they could get this week? That they planned this all along and MA8 in London was just cover for us getting Dick Emery?

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There was a time when people would have looked at an appointment like this and applauded us for throwing up such a clever smokescreen about Artetcetra while we in fact did the real deal without press scrutiny.

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:hehe: Sorry genuinely stupid question. Papers jumped the gun - Emery has always been in the frame and they only got to interview him recently

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Cheers.

Makes sense. Just hadn't seen his name mentioned myself.

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I have no doubt that their interest in Arteta was genuine, but that's what an interview process is about, isn't it? You interview candidates in whom you're interested, then make your choice from amongst them. I must say, it all looks rather normal to me.

You don't think that perhaps some journalists got a bit carried away with the Arteta story and jumped the gun?

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So B's suggesting it was a smokescreen. You're saying MA8 was genuine but he flunked an interview. I wish I knew.

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So B's suggesting it was a smokescreen. You're saying MA8 was genuine but he flunked an interview. I wish I knew.

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He doesn't need to have been a smokescreeen nor 'flunked' an interview. He may have given a terrific interview; the board may just have decided that, of the two candidates, Emery was fractionally better suited. :shrug: THAT'S HOW YOU EMPLOY SOMEONE!

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So B's suggesting it was a smokescreen. You're saying MA8 was genuine but he flunked an interview. I wish I knew.

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I can't believe anyone in football would really decide who they want to manage their team based on an interview, tbh.

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I can't believe anyone in football would really decide who they want to manage their team based on an interview, tbh.

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I'd disagree with you there, tbh. As a director of the club you'd have to put away everything you thought you knew and everything that you surmised, and ask the questions - What will your goals be, how will you achieve them, where's the best pinxtos buffet in Abu Dhabi?

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I can't believe anyone in football would really decide who they want to manage their team based on an interview, tbh.

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Right. Parkinson's Law; decide upon the man you want and go and get him. Repeat ad infinitum.

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I'd disagree with you there, tbh. As a director of the club you'd have to put away everything you thought you knew and everything that you surmised, and ask the questions - What will your goals be, how will you achieve them, where's the best pinxtos buffet in Abu Dhabi?

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As with most high-level appointments, though, by the time you've had the chat, you've pretty much already decided this is who you want. If all goes well, the chat itself is simply a means of discussing terms. If it goes badly, it's simply an opportunity for the candidate to fvck things up by saying all the wrong things and thus rule themselves out. Sometimes others apply and - out of a sense of duty or fair play - one interviews them for form's sake, but you're unlikely ever to employ them. Thus was it, I suspect, with young Mikel.

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As with most high-level appointments, though, by the time you've had the chat, you've pretty much already decided this is who you want. If all goes well, the chat itself is simply a means of discussing terms. If it goes badly, it's simply an opportunity for the candidate to fvck things up by saying all the wrong things and thus rule themselves out. Sometimes others apply and - out of a sense of duty or fair play - one interviews them for form's sake, but you're unlikely ever to employ them. Thus was it, I suspect, with young Mikel.

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I would suggest that if AW had retired when the club were a top 4 side and quite stable in that area they might have taken more of a gamble on MA, as it stands we are dropping off the pace more each season so taking a gamble was less likely... not saying MA would have been the wrong decision, would have been an exciting one, but if it went wrong the board would have been ****ting themselves