utter undiluted faeces that conspiracy theory ****-hooks spout about the Twin Towers. I would hate to have to dismiss you and add you to the list of contemptible moon landing denialists.
utter undiluted faeces that conspiracy theory ****-hooks spout about the Twin Towers. I would hate to have to dismiss you and add you to the list of contemptible moon landing denialists.
Of course not Herbs. :shakehead:Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
Of course not. I believe the official account, word for word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
I believe that despite crashing into a building and exploding into flames on impact, the passport of one of the hijackers just happened to fly out of the window and land at someone's feet on the sidewalk.
I believe that a plane managed to crash into the Pentagon but managed to evade all surveillance cameras and CCTV to the extent that there is not one single shot of it in existence.
And I firmly believe that flight 93 was wrestled to the ground by passengers despite the fact that there was virtually no wreckage of the plane at the crash site.
I am not some loon. I believe everything I am told. :)
Flight 93 was always the one that seemed dubious... no calls in the last 8 minutes of the flight, just after the person making that call had siad he heard some sort of explosion........Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Hmmm. For me, this all falls down on the very simple question of how on earth any such conspiracy could possibly have been kept quiet. The US military and security agencies have been subject to untold levels of leakage of sensitive, embarrassing and damaging information in recent years, but somehow they've managed to keep this one 100% under wraps with not one single whistleblower among the hundreds - thousands even - who would be necessary to orchestrate such a massive event having come forward?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Bòllocks. Sorry, but no.
I don't particularly mind if they did shoot it down and then carefully construct a fiction around it that made everyone feel a bit better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
Compartmentalisation, apparently. Everyone involved only knows the tiny little thing they did, they have no idea why or how it relates to the whole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
You just need a few guys with planes, a few guys to plant the bombs in the tower and a few more to shoot down 93, or fabricate the story altogether.
THe bigger question is why.....
On a serious level, there are clearly huge, gaping holes in the official accounts where information is being witheld or investigation has been horribly bungled. THis is standard practice. Unfortunately, these holes provide so much ammunition for the wackos and the theorists that their work becomes an inevitable part of the event.
It is quite interesting though...... sometimes nice to see one of these that simply points out a variety of things that dont add up/are impossible or where the official account is far harder to believe than the wacko theories.
There's every possibility that the official account was simply a slipshod or rushed bit of work and that there are valid issues of national security that mean certain info cannot be revealed, of course. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
In questions of conspiracy or cock-up, I invariably tend to believe in the latter rather than the former.
Don't get me wrong, if it needed shooting down then do it... why make out they didn't IF they didQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Of course. The entire thing is, from one point of view, a security cock up. You dont go about explaining exactly how people got through various security measures etc.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
The other building that collapsed is potentially the most suspicious bit of it. Never hit by a plane, nowhere near as damaged by fire as the other buildings and with no structural damage of note. Yet it housed most of the major intelligence and security service repositories...... hmmmmmmm
Well, it isn't a very nice story is it. American heroes kick the **** out of muslims and wrestle control of the plane is much better. And then died, so nobody can dispute it......Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
Because the families of the dead - and Americans in general - would probably prefer the heroic myth to such a brutal truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
And ultimately, they are all dead and it was going to end that way one way or another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
However, it is not a myth. It is a deliberate lie.
Most myths start as deliberate lies. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter